Import duties on equipment sent for repair?

[Owen]

I have a preamp that I am thinking about sending back to the manufacturer to be brought up to present spec. He is in the USA. Am I going to get smacked about for import duties at both ends or is there a way around it seeing as I own it and have paid full whack for it? I am not importing it.
TIA.

Edited January 7, 2017 by owen

[wateroftyne]

I looked into this once. There was a lot of complicated form-filling and grey areas involved, so I decided against it.

I hope you can make sense of it....

[Dood]

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1483823394' post='3210475']
I looked into this once. There was a lot of complicated form-filling and grey areas involved, so I decided against it.

I hope you can make sense of it....
[/quote]


Yup, indeed!

You need a Waybill Number from the original importing of the device to send the item back under a 'repair code' on the paperwork. When that has been done then the manufacturer needs the same information to send it back to you to ensure you don't pay twice. Of course the problem is always with getting the original details and then a courier who actually knows how to deal with the forms correctly. I had one enormous balls-up from one courier who I got so frustrated with, it was easier to cough up the extra. Never again!

[Owen]

Ugh! This would mean remembering who I bought it from on here. Just as well I never clear out my PM box!

[Grangur]

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1483824667' post='3210485']
Ugh! This would mean remembering who I bought it from on here. Just as well I never clear out my PM box!
[/quote]

And you're assuming they have the documents related to their buying it from the USA, assuming they were the original owner/importer.

[Owen]

Sadness, the PM search function does not work

[wateroftyne]

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1483825810' post='3210496']
Sadness, the PM search function does not work
[/quote]

[url="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Abasschat.co.uk+duty+repair+mport&oq=site%3Abasschat.co.uk+duty+repair+mport&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.10119j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"]Here you go...[/url]

[Owen]

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1483825260' post='3210489']
And you're assuming they have the documents related to their buying it from the USA, assuming they were the original owner/importer.
[/quote]

It is wired up for UK voltage so am presuming it is a proper import. I have 50 pages of PMs to wade through to see if I can find who I bought it from. First world problems.

[Owen]

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1483825899' post='3210498']
[url="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Abasschat.co.uk+duty+repair+mport&oq=site%3Abasschat.co.uk+duty+repair+mport&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.10119j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"]Here you go...[/url]
[/quote]

Thanks, is there a magic trick for me to search my PMs as well?

[Owen]

Found it. Quite a scary walk through 6 years of rampant GAS.

[EBS_freak]

It's not as difficult as it is being made out above. Check out the below -

[url="https://www.fedex.com/gtm/pdf/USF076.pdf"]https://www.fedex.co.../pdf/USF076.pdf[/url]

(Document is 19 CFR 10.1 - Domestic products; requirements on entry.)

I returned an £2k item (insured shipping was £100 - ouch!) to the States and it was pretty straightforward... you fill in the above item and send it with the item. A similar form is completed for the return journey by the vendor. My post office were pretty clued up - but I would wager it's pretty much pot luck on that front.

No hold ups or anything - it did get checked - and it was all like clockwork.

Hope this helps!

Edited January 8, 2017 by EBS_freak

[dmccombe7]

Can the work be done in UK.
Maybe the mfr has an authroised repair service here. ?
There are electronic repair shops that can quite easily do repairs or upgrades.
If its out of warranty then there isn't really much of an issue and its more about finding a good reliable company in UK.
Would certainly save a lot of possible issues

Dave

[markstuk]

[url="https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-236-returned-goods-relief/notice-236-returned-goods-relief"]https://www.gov.uk/g...ed-goods-relief[/url]

Yes you can.. We did this all the time when we sent stuff for FCC certfication to a US test lab.

Edited January 8, 2017 by markstuk

[wateroftyne]

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1483841088' post='3210597']
It's not as difficult as it is being made out above. Check out the below -

[url="https://www.fedex.com/gtm/pdf/USF076.pdf"]https://www.fedex.co.../pdf/USF076.pdf[/url]

(Document is 19 CFR 10.1 - Domestic products; requirements on entry.)

I returned an £2k item (insured shipping was £100 - ouch!) to the States and it was pretty straightforward... you fill in the above item and send it with the item. A similar form is completed for the return journey by the vendor. My post office were pretty clued up - but I would wager it's pretty much pot luck on that front.

No hold ups or anything - it did get checked - and it was all like clockwork.

Hope this helps!
[/quote]

Yeah - this is gloriously simple but it screams 'Pot luck'. If there's a bit chunk of money involved, I'd be reluctant to take the risk on this method.

[EBS_freak]

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1483871744' post='3210685']


Yeah - this is gloriously simple but it screams 'Pot luck'. If there's a bit chunk of money involved, I'd be reluctant to take the risk on this method.
[/quote]
Perhaps - but the company involved had said to me that they had never any issues with the process so who knows?

[wateroftyne]

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1483876156' post='3210730']
Perhaps - but the company involved had said to me that they had never any issues with the process so who knows?
[/quote]

Really? Wow. I wish I'd know about this back when I needed it...!

[Graham]

I'm almost certain you can temporarily export items for service/repair and then not pay duty on it upon re-import, as you've already paid the due tax on it.

I'll speak to our export compliance officer at work on Monday.

[wateroftyne]

[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1483878442' post='3210748']
I'm almost certain you can temporarily export items for service/repair and then not pay duty on it upon re-import, as you've already paid the due tax on it.

I'll speak to our export compliance officer at work on Monday.
[/quote]

You certainly can. This thread is a discussion about how exactly you do it..

[Graham]

I was going to check on the mechanics as well

[dmccombe7]

Can the work be done in UK.
Maybe the mfr has an authroised repair service here. ?
There are electronic repair shops that can quite easily do repairs or upgrades.
If its out of warranty then there isn't really much of an issue and its more about finding a good reliable company in UK.
Would certainly save a lot of possible issues

Dave

[Owen]

Thanks everyone for all the info, both given and promised. The preamp is a Monique and the info for the latest mods (mine is very early) is not out there. I am sure that a decent tech could do it but Jule has the secret sauce.