Bassman Sam Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 10/02/2020 at 23:03, pst62 said: I still have my Ebony Vintage Pro, done no mods to it, as it doesn't need it IMHO. I bought one from here last month. It's definitely a keeper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I quite fancy an ebony one, but I should probably unload one of the sunburst ones before looking as having four could be seen as excessive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1_Pro Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) So theres a lot of love for chunky necks! Im in the minority....again. Funnily enough the Gibson NR reissue I have also has a chunky neck, but, as far as I know, this was again not so in the originals. I do wonder why they changed it. Was it to make the headstocks harder to..erm ... displace? Or was it simply a move to appeal to the (obviously substantial) numbers of potential T bird owners who like chunky necks? Edited February 13, 2020 by W1_Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, W1_Pro said: So theres a lot of love for chunky necks! Im in the minority....again. Yes, it has certainly put me off one of these. I think the thing about the Gibson's (and the last epiphone classic) is the size of the neck, so completely un-fender like, disappointing that they have made it chunky, although I guess not for a lot of people.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Woodinblack said: Yes, it has certainly put me off one of these. I think the thing about the Gibson's (and the last epiphone classic) is the size of the neck, so completely un-fender like, disappointing that they have made it chunky, although I guess not for a lot of people.. I certainly wouldn't describe it as chunky, just chunkier that the old ones. Narrow but deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) - Edited March 4, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 16 hours ago, Woodinblack said: Yes, it has certainly put me off one of these. I think the thing about the Gibson's (and the last epiphone classic) is the size of the neck, so completely un-fender like, disappointing that they have made it chunky, although I guess not for a lot of people.. Why would it need to be Fender-like? Not everyone likes Fenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, 4000 said: Why would it need to be Fender-like? Not everyone likes Fenders. Exactly. Surely the whole point of the Thunderbird is that it's not a Fender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Speaking of Thunderbirds, has anyone owned/played the short scale model? Wondering what they are like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 4 hours ago, 4000 said: Why would it need to be Fender-like? Not everyone likes Fenders. Err.. yes, like me, exactly the point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, Woodinblack said: Err.. yes, like me, exactly the point! Apologies, but your post reads like you’ve been put off by the size of the neck, because it’s un-Fender like. That may not be what you meant (in fact it seems not) but I evidently wasn’t the only one to read it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, 4000 said: Apologies, but your post reads like you’ve been put off by the size of the neck, because it’s un-Fender like. That may not be what you meant (in fact it seems not) but I evidently wasn’t the only one to read it that way. ok, sorry if you read it that way. I am not a fan of fender necks. Well, fenders in general. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rodster Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 14/02/2020 at 21:36, Woodinblack said: ok, sorry if you read it that way. I am not a fan of fender necks. Well, fenders in general. I'm with you on this and the chunky neck on the Vintage Pro. I love the sound but can't get on with the neck so it's the least played of all my T-Birds. I''m trying to decide if having it re-lacquered would sort it out or if it needs to go for a full on neck shave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Chunky? Play a G&L Tribute L-2000 and then tell me the Classic Pro's neck is chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, neepheid said: Chunky? Play a G&L Tribute L-2000 and then tell me the Classic Pro's neck is chunky Not sure of the relevance - the L2000 is nothing like a thunderbird. I have an L2500 and yes its a big neck (although not as clumsy feeling as a precision) but it is more a precision style. A thunderbird neck (like a proper one) is very small - I have an epiphone classic and its neck is much closer to my old ibanez sr 4 string. So we were talking about it being chunky 'for a thunderbird' Edited February 16, 2020 by Woodinblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Not sure of the relevance - the L2000 is nothing like a thunderbird. I have an L2500 and yes its a big neck (although not as clumsy feeling as a precision) but it is more a precision style. A thunderbird neck (like a proper one) is very small - I have an epiphone classic and its neck is much closer to my old ibanez sr 4 string. So we were talking about it being chunky 'for a thunderbird' Fair enough, my bad for skim reading and going off on a "chunky as a general term" tangent. Yes, It's chunky for a Thunderbird neck. Carry on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 18/01/2017 at 14:35, Cosmo Valdemar said: Retail prices according to Talkbass: Embassy - $696 Thunderbird - $995 Don't think we'll see much difference from those prices in £ either... £1k for an Epi? Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 12 hours ago, neepheid said: Chunky? Play a G&L Tribute L-2000 and then tell me the Classic Pro's neck is chunky Have to say I’ve hated all the G&L necks I’ve played. Gimme Lakland necks any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, prowla said: £1k for an Epi? Hmmm. I posted that before they were released. Luckily the projections were inaccurate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 On 17/06/2018 at 21:16, Jean-Luc Pickguard said: I bought a set of Gotoh GB640 res-o-lite twiddlers for my thunderbird and got around to fitting them today. In my haste I think I could have fitted them a little straighter so I'll probably refit them at some point but I'm very happy with the classic vintage-cool 'long stem' look. The stock Wilkinsons were OK but in addition of look much better these are lighter and smoother. This GB640 set tunes the standard way, but there's also a GBR640 set which have reverse gearing like vintage Klusons and other modern versions that look like Klusons. Another difference common to the GB640 & GBR640 is that the baseplate fits flat without needing to drill dimples like you would for original vintage & vintage replica versions. They are made from something called duralumin alloy and weigh just 67g each. Hi J-L P I finally got around to getting a set of those Gotoh 640's for my Vintage Pro, and have found that the bushings are slightly too small for the holes. Did you leave the original Epiphone bushings in, or have you used the Gotoh's? If so, how did you get around that difference in size? I also noticed that the string pole (whatever it's called) could have done with being a bit longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) I padded out the holes with a bit of masking tape to get a snug fit with the gotoh bushings. I think the stock Wilkinson bushings might be a bit taller which could make the capstan look shorter. Edited October 2, 2021 by Jean-Luc Pickguard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I've just ordered a set of nickel vintage fender bushings, they're the same low profile as the Gotoh's and they're the right fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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