Painy Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 My band's lead vocalist and myself have recently started using IEMs at gigs. The headphones that came with the wireless systems we're using (Thomann's budget t-bone package) are complete and utter garbage so we've been using our own earbuds for the time being. They are far better quality but as they were designed for general use rather than as IEMs they color the sound far too much so I'm looking for something specifically designed for monitoring but unfortunately it will have to be as cheap as possible. I've been looking at the t-bone EP4s on Thomann which have good reviews and at around £50 they're certainly inexpensive but is there anything else I should be looking at? I could add another £10-20 if it would get me something noticeably better but that's pretty much all Mrs Painy will let me get away with spending right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Citronic dual driver headphones. Around £15 delivered from eBay. Awesome bang for the buck! I prefer them to some of the more expensive sets I have 😉 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291914048062 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 [quote name='dudewheresmybass' timestamp='1485097345' post='3221067'] Citronic dual driver headphones. Around £15 delivered from eBay. Awesome bang for the buck! I prefer them to some of the more expensive sets I have 😉 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291914048062 [/quote] Hmm. That really is cheap. Do they color the sound at all and how well do they handle bass? I had seen them on eBay but if I'm honest I'd discounted them on price as likely to be cheap and nasty but would be great if that's not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I bought Shure SE215s - at the time they were getting the best reviews and I am very happy with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The drummer i play with (also a lecturer in music, music tech and stuff) recommends these https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEE-Earphone-Replaceable-Universal-Microphone/dp/B00SLVB71Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485113493&sr=8-2&keywords=m6+headphones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1485113555' post='3221230'] The drummer i play with (also a lecturer in music, music tech and stuff) recommends these https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEE-Earphone-Replaceable-Universal-Microphone/dp/B00SLVB71Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485113493&sr=8-2&keywords=m6+headphones [/quote] Oooo, pretty!!! That looks just the ticket, thanks! Just read a few reviews which seem to share the view that these are very pronounced on the treble side (overly so in fact according to a couple of reviews) but the cheap wireless system we're using could really do with more presence in the highs anyway so could actually be a good match. For £38 delivered I reckon these are worth a punt. Edited January 22, 2017 by Painy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 Right, sorted. Thanks guys. [URL=http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Richard_Pain/media/stuff/Screenshot_20170122-165809_1_zpsmtczl9nc.jpg.html][IMG]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/Richard_Pain/stuff/Screenshot_20170122-165809_1_zpsmtczl9nc.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 [quote name='Painy' timestamp='1485114877' post='3221266'] Oooo, pretty!!! That looks just the ticket, thanks! Just read a few reviews which seem to share the view that these are very pronounced on the treble side (overly so in fact according to a couple of reviews) but the cheap wireless system we're using could really do with more presence in the highs anyway so could actually be a good match. For £38 delivered I reckon these are worth a punt. [/quote] I was looking at those too, I like the design and reviews, although I am a little concerned about too many people complaining about the build quality and them breaking... I had bookmarked the Shure SE215 based on reviews and price (around £80-90) but if the M6 do a good job I might go for those. I like that the cable is detachable too. The reviews about the excessive treble might be due to poor seal of the earbuds they were using. Let us know what you think about them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 Will do. Is seems that the complaints about excessive treble were mainly from people using them as headphones to listen to recorded music rather than for stage monitoring but we shall see. Apparently burning them in for 24 hours softens the treble too so I'll probably give that a go. I'll leave a review on here once I've tried them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 [quote name='dudewheresmybass' timestamp='1485097345' post='3221067'] Citronic dual driver headphones. Around £15 delivered from eBay. Awesome bang for the buck! I prefer them to some of the more expensive sets I have [url="https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291914048062"]https://www.ebay.co....tm/291914048062[/url] [/quote] Hmmm... I was curious and ordered a pair to try. I am enormously underwhelmed... they're actually pretty bad for music. Very boxy, boomy lows, poor treble... I find it difficult to believe we're talking about the same ones. Model EP740? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 IEMs on a tight budget - I fear you aren't going to get the lows out of any of the IEMs that you have mentioned. Save you money and save up... seriously. You'll have a miserable IEM experience otherwise. You aren't going to get the performance you are looking for. I've spent more on headphones than I care to admit... and for bass in an IEM environment, I would say do not got anything less than a quad driver with UE900s being a good bet. Dual lows, mid and high. Probably looking around the 175ish mark but this isn't me being snobby - it's me saying, you are asking a lot from anything less because you are dealing with raw, uncompressed input with huge transients. Looks at the last few pages of the big IEM post for other people's views on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1485449691' post='3224063'] IEMs on a tight budget - I fear you aren't going to get the lows out of any of the IEMs that you have mentioned. Save you money and save up... seriously. You'll have a miserable IEM experience otherwise. You aren't going to get the performance you are looking for. I've spent more on headphones than I care to admit... and for bass in an IEM environment, I would say do not got anything less than a quad driver with UE900s being a good bet. Dual lows, mid and high. Probably looking around the 175ish mark but this isn't me being snobby - it's me saying, you are asking a lot from anything less because you are dealing with raw, uncompressed input with huge transients. Looks at the last few pages of the big IEM post for other people's views on them. [/quote] I have my eye on those UE900, they do get great reviews... The cheapest I've seen is around £280, 'though. Still, if the IEM route works for me, I'd definitely want good earphones. I've spent more in speaker cabinets that rarely get used as anything more than stage monitors, so £300 doesn't seem too bad (especially when you look at what really expensive earphones cost!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) Here you go - [url="https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/logitech-ultimate-ears-ue900s-headphone-en.html"]https://www.eglobalc...adphone-en.html[/url] I have had a number of friends order from here, they've come and they are the real deal. Just order with a credit card and you'll be fine. Can't complain at that price. And if they really work for you, you can have them converted to customs for circa £200 quid. As a benchmark, a quad custom is currently riding around £750 now. Edited January 26, 2017 by EBS_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1485462524' post='3224194'] Here you go - [url="https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/logitech-ultimate-ears-ue900s-headphone-en.html"]https://www.eglobalc...adphone-en.html[/url] I have had a number of friends order from here, they've come and they are the real deal. Just order with a credit card and you'll be fine. Can't complain at that price. And if they really work for you, you can have them converted to customs for circa £200 quid. As a benchmark, a quad custom is currently riding around £750 now. [/quote] wow! how's that possible? That's quite a price difference... you're a bad man [1], I think I may just bite the bullet... [1] the best kind of bad man 'though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 ah well... I ordered the UE900. There was even a £5 discount code... it was a sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1485466887' post='3224243'] you're a bad man [1] [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Well my earphones have arrived and for the money I'm very impressed so far (I will be looking to get something better in due course if these don't cut it though). They are pretty much what I'd hoped for - which is to say a flat, more focused bass response than my Sennheiser earphones (which are meant for general music listening rather than designed for use as stage IEMs) and very clear, crisp and precise in the mids and highs. So far I've only tried them listening to music on my phone and with my bass through my practice amp so yet to see how they fare at a gig (no gig this weekend either which is always the way when I get a bit of new kit I want to try out) but I'll report back after next week's gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Looking forward to both of your guys opinions on your respective toys - maybe stick them in the big in ear monitor post to try and keep everything together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1485529798' post='3224693'] Looking forward to both of your guys opinions on your respective toys - maybe stick them in the big in ear monitor post to try and keep everything together? [/quote] will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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