Bridgehouse Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 I'm considering using my Helix out and about, and I'd like an FRFR solution to go with it - either standalone or for monitoring when the Helix is going into FOH Thinking bass specifically, are there any obvious choices or is the Line 6 L3 the best bet? Quote
EBS_freak Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 Whats your budget? Any decent PA speaker will likely do you better than the majority of those marketed as FRFR cabs. Quote
LewisK1975 Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 What about a Barefaced FR800? http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/FR800.htm Quote
Bridgehouse Posted February 9, 2017 Author Posted February 9, 2017 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1486651787' post='3233547'] Whats your budget? Any decent PA speaker will likely do you better than the majority of those marketed as FRFR cabs. [/quote] Nothing specific - will pay what is required to get it right. Don't want to end up buying multiple times and learning the hard/expensive way Quote
Bridgehouse Posted February 9, 2017 Author Posted February 9, 2017 [quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1486651848' post='3233548'] What about a Barefaced FR800? http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/FR800.htm [/quote] Interesting... I wonder, does anyone have experience of this with a Helix? Quote
Wooks79 Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1486651787' post='3233547'] Whats your budget? Any decent PA speaker will likely do you better than the majority of those marketed as FRFR cabs. [/quote] Not all PA Speaker go low enough Hz do they? Edited February 9, 2017 by Wooks79 Quote
Bridgehouse Posted February 9, 2017 Author Posted February 9, 2017 [quote name='Wooks79' timestamp='1486652205' post='3233554'] Not all PA Speaker go low enough hz do they? [/quote] And herein is my dilemma - the popular frfrs seem to bottom out at about 56. Quote
Wooks79 Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 I am contemplating a similar thing lately, and tempted by a powered Kemper into Barefaced Big Baby 2... Just gotta sell everything else first Quote
Wooks79 Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 [quote name='Bridgehouse' timestamp='1486652282' post='3233556'] And herein is my dilemma - the popular frfrs seem to bottom out at about 56. [/quote] How low do they need to go? What would the best range be for a Bass/Guitar all in one cab solution? Quote
markstuk Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 Fr800 goes to 42 Hz (-3db).. drop a line to Alex at Barefaced - I think they do a 30 day trial period.. Quote
Wooks79 Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 I've emailed Alex about stuff, he was a great help, which is why I'm leaning towards the Big Baby 2, since I love my Compact and Vintage. I just wondered if anyone on here knew the ideal Hz range for a cab to be an all in one guitar/bass solution? Quote
Bridgehouse Posted February 9, 2017 Author Posted February 9, 2017 42 should be fine for bass. I've emailed him now to see what he thinks, but it does look like an ideal solution at 33lbs - that's over 20lbs lighter than the line 6 one. Quote
Wooks79 Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 Big Baby 2 goes down to 33 Hz, is cheaper, and 26lbs in weight, but I guess then you would have a poweramp to find (and carry separate) Quote
Bridgehouse Posted February 9, 2017 Author Posted February 9, 2017 [quote name='Wooks79' timestamp='1486664506' post='3233708'] Big Baby 2 goes down to 33 Hz, is cheaper, and 26lbs in weight, but I guess then you would have a poweramp to find (and carry separate) [/quote] And for me that sort of defeats the purpose - if it's separate then I'd have to be careful over poweranp choice and all that.. and it's more to lug around and.... Quote
EBS_freak Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 [quote name='Wooks79' timestamp='1486652205' post='3233554'] Not all PA Speaker go low enough Hz do they? [/quote] I said decent! Quote
TPJ Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 The Fearless speakers would probably fall into the FRFR category. I know my F112 certainly is. Quote
alexclaber Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 [quote name='Wooks79' timestamp='1486664506' post='3233708']Big Baby 2 goes down to 33 Hz, is cheaper, and 26lbs in weight, but I guess then you would have a poweramp to find (and carry separate)[/quote] The FR800 is an active version of the BB2. The usable frequency range is the same for both - the difference in the specs is that for the FR800 we've quoted frequency response within 3dB limits, not usable frequency range (which is wider). Quote
markstuk Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) [quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1486717781' post='3234009'] The FR800 is an active version of the BB2. The usable frequency range is the same for both - the difference in the specs is that for the FR800 we've quoted frequency response within 3dB limits, not usable frequency range (which is wider). [/quote] Thus my previous "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Fr800 goes to 42 Hz (-3db)." Although my low B fundamental is about 32 Hz.. [/font][/color] Edited February 10, 2017 by markstuk Quote
EBS_freak Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 [quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1486721279' post='3234042'] Thus my previous "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Fr800 goes to 42 Hz (-3db)." [/font][/color] [/quote] True - but it also goes lower... but with more than a -3dB roll off. I'm not sure you want to be going as low as 42 Hz.. your sound is going to be pretty swampy on stage. Quote
markstuk Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1486721592' post='3234044'] True - but it also goes lower... but with more than a -3dB roll off. I'm not sure you want to be going as low as 42 Hz.. your sound is going to be pretty swampy on stage. [/quote] You'll get no argument from me on that.... I have a thumpinator Quote
EBS_freak Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 [quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1486721681' post='3234045'] You'll get no argument from me on that.... I have a thumpinator [/quote] Interesting that the roll off is apparently at 30hz on the thumpinator - still lower than most bass cabs can reliably reproduce at any noticeable volume. It will get the fundamental of a B string through - which to be honest, is probably not wanted on most stages anyway. Keep the sub frequencies for the PA - and even then, a lot of smaller venues won't thank for you subs that low. In fact, you got to be running some pretty decent subs to get anywhere near 30hz at -3db at any decent SPL anyway. The real chest thumping stuff is circa 65Hz - the resonant frequency of your rib cage... so you know where to peak your kick drum's eq... Quote
LewisK1975 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1486722086' post='3234051'] ...The real chest thumping stuff is circa 65Hz - the resonant frequency of your rib cage... so you know where to peak your kick drum's eq... [/quote] Well, now we do!, cheers Russ! Quote
Bridgehouse Posted February 10, 2017 Author Posted February 10, 2017 Well I'm going to order an FR800. I will let you all know when it arrives! Quote
markstuk Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 [quote name='Bridgehouse' timestamp='1486723791' post='3234075'] Well I'm going to order an FR800. I will let you all know when it arrives! [/quote] Excellent.. Look forward to your report... Quote
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