Chelsea Dagger thread #284675

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[font="Calibri"][size="3"][color="#000000"]Ive been after a reasonably close bass sound to the tone Baz Fratelli gets on Chelsea Dagger for a while and been through numerous fuzz/distortion/overdrive pedals and all have failed.[/color][/size][/font]
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[font="Calibri"][size="3"][color="#000000"]As per the link its fuzzy but still thumpy and reasonably tight. [/color][/size][size="3"][color="#000000"]I certainly think in the studio they have taken a clean feed and a fuzzy feed and dubbed them on the album track so I know im not going to get the EXACT tone but im looking to get as close as poss.[/color][/size][/font]
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[font="Calibri"][size="3"][color="#000000"]Ive tried an old Bubble Font Muff that got close-ish but it lacked the thump/bass. [/color][/size][size="3"][color="#000000"]The Big Bass Muff isn’t bright enough, an Ibanez PD7 was too sludgey, a Boss BD2 was awesome but again lacked the thump. I play through an Ampeg valve amp so also tried an LPB1 boost pedal to try and overdrive the amp but it wasn’t fuzzy enough (awesome valvey beef tho!).[/color][/size][/font]
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[font="Calibri"][size="3"][color="#000000"]I’m playing a P bass into an always-on DHA Bass Drive to beef up my sound then into the Ampeg V4BH into an Ampeg 410he. [/color][/size][size="3"][color="#000000"]I get that my flatwounds wont help but I think that’s what Baz Fratelli uses anyway hence the underlying thump to the sound.[/color][/size][/font]
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[font="Calibri"][size="3"][color="#000000"]Any help with this is muchly appreciated as its driving me round the bend![/color][/size][/font]

[PaulWarning]

but what does it sound like when he's doing it live?

[Lozz196]

I`d say that there is def a fair amount of drive on the studio sound, plus not real low lows. Additionally a boost in the hi-mids between the 2kHz and 3kHz area, rather than on the actual highs.

[chris_b]

I've just been given Chelsea Dagger to learn for a function in 2 weeks.

I've only ever heard this on the radio as background noise, so I listened to it properly yesterday. We are not the Fratellis so I plan to use the sound of a Mike Lull bass (fingers) into a TH500 amp into Barefaced 112 cabs, ie my sound. No help at all, I know, but that's it.

[Ghost_Bass]

I had to play it for a dep gig i did a few months ago. I only tried to get a close sound using my own existing gear, i got in the ballpark with the B3K used at a mid/low drive setting with the blend favouring the clean signal. Was enough to get me by. That sound is made in the studio and a blend of different signals, there's some valve goodiness happening in that distortion that may be dificult to obtain in a live situation without specific bass/amp/pedals/processing/compression/etc.

[markdavid]

not much too add other than it is a great bass tone, one that immediately stood out when I first heard this song, the other thing is fresh roundwounds will definitely help, probably a set of nickels (for the mid punch) that are on the brighter side like Daddarios

[essexbasscat]

I've just been given this for next weekend. Should have some fun trying to get that sound out of a P bass with a pick and walkabout scout

Edited February 19, 2017 by essexbasscat

[solo4652]

In the past two years, I've gigged the song at least 50 times. No effects whatsoever - simply chose the P bass, cranked the gain a bit more than normal and pushed the low mids on the amp EQ. Unless you're a tribute band, that'll be absolutely fine. It's a party chant after all - audiences generally want to dance to it rather than listen closely to the bass tone!

[Muzz]

A very very easy tone to get - bright rounds, some mids, drive if the amp'll do it, pick, P-pup. Job done.