EBS Reidmar 500

[karlfer]

[url="https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/EBS-R500/bass-amp-heads/ebs-reidmar-500-bass-amp-head"]https://www.anderton...0-bass-amp-head[/url]

New or am I misreading it?
Or are EBS playing at being TC

[Raggy]

http://ebssweden.com/content2/2017-editions-new-reidmar-500-session-combos-at-namm/

New, it seems.

[CameronJ]

I have no idea why EBS didn't release this along with the other two Reidmars in the first place. Although I suppose the 500 watt Class D market is pretty flooded as it is so maybe it wasn't a particular priority for them.

[Musicman20]

The Reidmar use a D-class power amp providing 470 W Dynamic Output @ 4 ohms load (250 W RMS). Weight is 3.1 kg (7.0 lbs).

[Chienmortbb]

Its a 250Watt amp. I think that is what the OP was getting at. There was no such thing as Dynamic Output watts.

[markstuk]

[quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1488208425' post='3246782']
Its a 250Watt amp. I think that is what the OP was getting at. There was no such thing as Dynamic Output watts.
[/quote]

Very similar to Behringer and Bugera watts

Edited February 27, 2017 by markstuk

[markstuk]

And I look forward to the Reidmar 1400 being released real soon :-)

[Danuman]

What's with these alternative watts?!

And from once respectable brands, no less.

[markstuk]

[quote name='Danuman' timestamp='1488229878' post='3247104']
What's with these alternative watts?!

And from once respectable brands, no less.
[/quote]

There are a couple of ways to look at this - the concept that "tube" watts are perceived as being bigger than solid state watts... TC make a good case for their APM being "like" a tube amp, but it's annoying that it took a while to get the info out of them... Partly it's our fault as we simply look at the number of watts (thankfully RMS) an amp produces as the main thing.. From what I hear the Reidmars are considered pretty loud regardless..

[Danuman]

I guess you have a point. However, I'm more than slightly miffed at some of the big brands when they, ahem, seem to be implying what they're implying.

It's hard enough to extrapolate what'll work in a live context, even without these semi-fudged numbers...

[markstuk]

[quote name='Danuman' timestamp='1488232654' post='3247143']
I guess you have a point. However, I'm more than slightly miffed at some of the big brands when they, ahem, seem to be implying what they're implying.

It's hard enough to extrapolate what'll work in a live context, even without these semi-fudged numbers...
[/quote]

I have "real watts" amps (thunderfunk TF750A and a Glockenklang Heart Rock2) and a TC RH750.. The RH750 is plenty loud enough..... As loud in perceived terms as the Mesa Prodigy Four:88 I had.. The Class A/B amps have more "thud" than the RH though.

[Danuman]

I've used TC gear for years and I've loved most of it, but it still feels a bit underhand to inflate the numbers like that. Some of their marketing strategies are starting to affect how I feel about the brand.

At one point I was interested in the Reidmar (before the 750 arrived), but ultimately I concluded it didn't have the power I needed. I have no idea why, but for a brief moment I thought the Reidmar 500 would provide 500 actual watts. (Loudness notwithstanding )

Edited February 28, 2017 by Danuman

[Dood]

The 500 replaces the 470 model. I think it is a bit smaller and a bit lighter in comparison. In review, I thought the 750 was very good.

[Chienmortbb]

One of these days I will write a thread on watts and amplifier classes and valves V SS. I need to get fit including taking lots of Vitamin D ( and in the interest of fairness Vitamins A, B and A/. On a serious note I need to be in the right frame of mind as I know it will generate lots of ill-informed flack.

[Beer of the Bass]

Their product naming gets confusing. The older "250 watt" Reidmar had the reputation of being loud for it's rating, and I have no idea if this is intended to be the same output as that was or more...

[Oopsdabassist]

Yup, I'm confused, as my Reidmar 250 produces 250 watts at 4 ohm..and yes it IS feckin loud, I got it as backup to my Eden WT400, which it blew into the weeds!

Looking at the specs it seems to me they have just re badged mine as a 500.....poor show!

[Musicman20]

[quote name='Oopsdabassist' timestamp='1488442342' post='3248913']
Yup, I'm confused, as my Reidmar 250 produces 250 watts at 4 ohm..and yes it IS feckin loud, I got it as backup to my Eden WT400, which it blew into the weeds!

Looking at the specs it seems to me they have just re badged mine as a 500.....poor show!
[/quote]

Exactly

[Conan]

[quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1488412404' post='3248820']I need to be in the right frame of mind as I know it will generate lots of ill-informed flack.
[/quote]

Ill-informed flak? On Basschat?!?! Surely not....

[Ghost_Bass]

[quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1488208425' post='3246782']
Its a 250Watt amp. I think that is what the OP was getting at. There was no such thing as Dynamic Output watts.
[/quote]

So, basicly they rebadged the original Reidmar?

[isteen]

It's a new smaller version of the old 250 watt Reidmar, and I have the power I need in that small package

[Conan]

[i][color=#231F20]"With two amps together, connected through the Effects loop (Send from one to Return on the other), you can drive two 4 ohm cabinets, getting a separate volume control for each cabinet while using the EQ from the one you plug in to"[/color][/i]

[color=#231F20] [/color][color=#231F20] [/color]
[color=#231F20]What an odd suggestion! Why would anyone wish to do such a thing? [/color]

[isteen]

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1494573387' post='3297012']
[i][color=#231F20]"With two amps together, connected through the Effects loop (Send from one to Return on the other), you can drive two 4 ohm cabinets, getting a separate volume control for each cabinet while using the EQ from the one you plug in to"[/color][/i]

[color=#231F20] [/color][color=#231F20] [/color]
[color=#231F20]What an odd suggestion! Why would anyone wish to do such a thing? [/color]
[/quote]

Stereo

[Dan Dare]

Class D watts have to be smaller than tube watts, in order to fit in the smaller amp case. Simples

[EBS_freak]

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1494573387' post='3297012']
[i][color=#231F20]"With two amps together, connected through the Effects loop (Send from one to Return on the other), you can drive two 4 ohm cabinets, getting a separate volume control for each cabinet while using the EQ from the one you plug in to"[/color][/i]

[color=#231F20] [/color]
[color=#231F20]What an odd suggestion! Why would anyone wish to do such a thing? [/color]
[/quote]

If you are an EBS cab owner and already have 2 of their 4 ohm cabs. Separate volume - I guess it's so you can balance the volume output between two different configurations of cab.

Would hardly say it's a marketing point to be made though. I think EBS have lost the plot compared to what they once were.

[CameronJ]

Ugh. I've just re-read the OP's post and link. Misleadingly rebadged Reidmar 250 it is then.