briansbrew Posted March 5, 2017 Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) Hi Guys, Need some advice/help with this bad boy. I have sanded off most of the clear lacquer and the stain but as you can see some of the stain is still in the grain. Its a 3 piece body and i don't know if nitromors is suitable for this task. Its an old Blazer bass and i want to make suer its not damaged in the process. If you notice to the left of the body there is a dark patch, this is slightly lower and has 2 holes which had lead shot removed (by me ) when I got the bass. Maybe someone was taking pot shots at it. I am trying to get this are level as possible but the holes will be a problem if I want to keep a natural finish. Any suggestion/ideas would be greatly appreciated. [attachment=239795:IMG_0600.jpg] Brian Edited March 16, 2017 by briansbrew Quote
briansbrew Posted March 5, 2017 Author Posted March 5, 2017 [quote name='Number6' timestamp='1488749558' post='3251557'] I like it as it is [/quote] You may have a good point there, some oil and leave the knocks and bumps... Quote
Bolo Posted March 5, 2017 Posted March 5, 2017 You can drill out the holes and bung them. I wouldn't change the rest honestly, just wax it it's cool. Quote
Truckstop Posted March 5, 2017 Posted March 5, 2017 Yeah looks super ratty, love it! 10 coats of danish oil, sanded with wet n dry each coat, then 4 or 5 coats of beeswax will get you a real nice satin finish. Best of lluck and make sure you put some photos of the finished product up! Quote
briansbrew Posted March 5, 2017 Author Posted March 5, 2017 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1488751359' post='3251567'] Yeah looks super ratty, love it! 10 coats of danish oil, sanded with wet n dry each coat, then 4 or 5 coats of beeswax will get you a real nice satin finish. Best of lluck and make sure you put some photos of the finished product up! [/quote] Thanks truck shop, I think that the danish oil would be the way to go, never used it before so I may be very tempted. Some ash bungs first for the holes i will of course put up pics of the finished article. Quote
SpondonBassed Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) There are lots of tips in the Build Diaries on BassChat too. You might get an answer to your nitromors question there. PS; I'd love to know what sort of gigs it's been used at where pot shots are taken at the band. Edited March 6, 2017 by SpondonBassed Quote
ivansc Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Nitromors is likely to leave a residue in the wood that may lead to later eruptions in the finish. Have you tried wetting down the dents & letting them soak to see if you can swell the wood back out? I have done this with small surface dent and it worked OK. Quote
Bolo Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 [quote name='ivansc' timestamp='1488792164' post='3251695'] Have you tried wetting down the dents & letting them soak to see if you can swell the wood back out? I have done this with small surface dent and it worked OK. [/quote] If the wood fibre hasn't been broken this could work, helped perhaps by a hot iron to steam the dent out. I doubt with lead shot stuck in the fibre is tore up and will not pop back in it's original shape. Have a chat with a luthier about possible finishes, I think I read somewhere that once you go oil it is a b!tch to go back to paint later. Quote
briansbrew Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 [quote name='Bolo' timestamp='1488794755' post='3251732'] If the wood fibre hasn't been broken this could work, helped perhaps by a hot iron to steam the dent out. I doubt with lead shot stuck in the fibre is tore up and will not pop back in it's original shape. Have a chat with a luthier about possible finishes, I think I read somewhere that once you go oil it is a b!tch to go back to paint later. [/quote] Yes I am dubious now about the oil finish and using nitomors may leave a residue as Ivansc said. More sanding it is then to see how that turns out Quote
briansbrew Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 [quote name='SpondonBassed' timestamp='1488784912' post='3251631'] There are lots of tips in the Build Diaries on BassChat too. You might get an answer to your nitromors question there. PS; I'd love to know what sort of gigs it's been used at where pot shots are taken at the band. [/quote] Ok coral maybe.... Quote
briansbrew Posted March 7, 2017 Author Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) [quote name='Bolo' timestamp='1488794755' post='3251732'] If the wood fibre hasn't been broken this could work, helped perhaps by a hot iron to steam the dent out. I doubt with lead shot stuck in the fibre is tore up and will not pop back in it's original shape. Have a chat with a luthier about possible finishes, I think I read somewhere that once you go oil it is a b!tch to go back to paint later. [/quote] The dent is more a hollow that I find difficult to work out, I am sanding in and around it to see what happens, also I have added some water to the area to get it raised.. heres hoping Edited March 7, 2017 by briansbrew Quote
Naetharu Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 If you can find the kit to do it I'd go for a sand-blasted finish on that. Would look lovely with the grain and the marked surface will work fine with it. Quote
briansbrew Posted March 8, 2017 Author Posted March 8, 2017 [quote name='Naetharu' timestamp='1488974993' post='3253363'] If you can find the kit to do it I'd go for a sand-blasted finish on that. Would look lovely with the grain and the marked surface will work fine with it. [/quote] I had considered the sandblasting route if I can find someone local who have the kit to do it. I agree it would look the dogs .... Quote
briansbrew Posted March 9, 2017 Author Posted March 9, 2017 What if I plug the 2 holes with brass plugs, bit like the Sandberg basses with silver plugs.... Quote
Norris Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 First of all put a few drops of water in the dents and keep adding more as it soaks in. Then lay a quite damp cloth over the top and use a steam iron on its hottest setting to really heat it up. Rinse and repeat a few times. Leave it overnight to dry out and the wood will rise up as it dries. You can pop out a dent up to 2-3mm that way. Then you have less to sand out to get a smooth finish. Of course it depends how deep the dents are. Quote
briansbrew Posted March 10, 2017 Author Posted March 10, 2017 [quote name='Norris' timestamp='1489175120' post='3255044'] First of all put a few drops of water in the dents and keep adding more as it soaks in. Then lay a quite damp cloth over the top and use a steam iron on its hottest setting to really heat it up. Rinse and repeat a few times. Leave it overnight to dry out and the wood will rise up as it dries. You can pop out a dent up to 2-3mm that way. Then you have less to sand out to get a smooth finish. Of course it depends how deep the dents are. [/quote] Hi Norris, I have tried the water and the large dark dent has gone up a bit, the 2 holes that you see are about 3mm or so deep as I have removed the lead shot so they will have to be filled. the dark patch I now know is a burnt mark which is sanded out completely. The 2 holes are now plugged with a section I removed under the pick guard using a wood plug removal tool, was a bit brittle but its the best I can achieve under the circumstance. Don't know how to update a pic on this post. Any ideas folks Quote
Norris Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 Actually I would have been tempted to leave the shot in place as a talking point. Bit late now though. An alternative would have been to saved some sawdust, pack it into the holes and then wick in some superglue Quote
briansbrew Posted March 11, 2017 Author Posted March 11, 2017 [quote name='Norris' timestamp='1489256099' post='3255564'] Actually I would have been tempted to leave the shot in place as a talking point. Bit late now though. An alternative would have been to saved some sawdust, pack it into the holes and then wick in some superglue [/quote] all holes plugged now and 2 coats of Danish oil, must get a pic up when its complete and Im happy so far with the result. War wounds can be seen Quote
SpondonBassed Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 [quote name='briansbrew' timestamp='1489092357' post='3254390'] What if I plug the 2 holes with brass plugs, bit like the Sandberg basses with silver plugs.... [/quote] A couple of costume gemstones maybe? Quote
Grangur Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 Looks good to me. Looking forward to seeing your handiwork. Don't worry about painting over oil. IF you ever want to do that, simply wash it over with white spirit, rub it down to make smooth and paint. I've done it a few times with oak furniture. Quote
briansbrew Posted March 12, 2017 Author Posted March 12, 2017 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1489348631' post='3256259'] Looks good to me. Looking forward to seeing your handiwork. Don't worry about painting over oil. IF you ever want to do that, simply wash it over with white spirit, rub it down to make smooth and paint. I've done it a few times with oak furniture. [/quote] Good to know Grangur if the oil finish dosent work out. Quote
briansbrew Posted March 12, 2017 Author Posted March 12, 2017 [quote name='SpondonBassed' timestamp='1489345752' post='3256238'] A couple of costume gemstones maybe? [/quote] Pity I didn't see that idea sooner, some sparklers to give me a diamond finish... Quote
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