mcnach Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 [quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1490722914' post='3267417'] Thus bass already exists (US Sterling with 3 way selector for parallel/series/single coil. I understand MM do sell replacement pick ups and EQs also. [/quote] ceramic pickup and especially narrow neck says the Sterling is not for me. Anyway, guys, stop telling me what I need, I'm good with the Stingray + MMSR and the SUB wired in series! Now more seriously... I don't think you can buy a pickup. Not here anyway. For a while Strings & Things, their UK distributor would happily sell you all kinds of spares. However they only deal with dealers now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treb Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Ernie Ball will not sell you pickups. Big Poppa himself says so. Want a new MM pickup? Hand over the faulty MM one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 [quote name='Treb' timestamp='1490735476' post='3267590'] Ernie Ball will not sell you pickups. Big Poppa himself says so. Want a new MM pickup? Hand over the faulty MM one. [/quote] Yeah, but S&T used to until relatively recently. They used to have a menu that was not very good to navigate, and no pictures... then they improved it, and soon after they stopped selling to individuals. I suspect EBMM found out and had a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drTStingray Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) This isn't quite right - yes they won't sell you a body or neck without swapping for the one being replaced - and quite right too. But I think you can still order parts but not direct - you would need to order via a dealer (in the same way you would order a bass or strings etc). Anyone know what happened to the OP? Edited March 28, 2017 by drTStingray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drTStingray Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 [quote name='Treb' timestamp='1490735476' post='3267590'] Ernie Ball will not sell you pickups. Big Poppa himself says so. Want a new MM pickup? Hand over the faulty MM one. [/quote] I think this is many, many years out of date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 The OP is still here and enjoying the evolution of the thread. All good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I'm considering getting a series/parallel fitted to my series wired Ray 5HH anyone know if this would be doable? It certainly would give a great palette of sounds 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1490696139' post='3267083'] remember the Stingray pickup does not have 4 wires coming out of it. You can stil 'tap' each coil, and while not being exactly as delicate as brain surgery, there is the possibility of screwing up a great pickup, and you won't buy a replacement easily. Hence... the Stingray remains untouched. Just in case. But it has a 3-band MMSR preamp. The SUB is good 'as is' with the original 2-band preamp. It's not like the Stingray sounds bad, just that the SUB sounds better. [/quote] Well everyone wants to tell me that the SUB is EXACTLY the same regarding the electronics, if you can get to the connections on a SUB but not on a Ray then they must be different after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 [quote name='Treb' timestamp='1490735476' post='3267590'] Ernie Ball will not sell you pickups. Big Poppa himself says so. Want a new MM pickup? Hand over the faulty MM one. [/quote] It's a good job that Big Poppa doesn't work in the motor trade... Could you imagine the ballache? That reminds me, I need some strings, going to pop the old ones in a jiffy bag so he can do the necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1490864986' post='3268564'] Well everyone wants to tell me that the SUB is EXACTLY the same regarding the electronics, if you can get to the connections on a SUB but not on a Ray then they must be different after all? [/quote] No, the SUB pickup is wired in series from factory (there are some in series and some in parallel, all stock, and I owned both), so you still cannot get to the wires unless you tap directly from the soldered eyelets. In that respect is the same. The parallel wired one *is* the same in every respect. Obviously, the one that is wired in series differs in that bit. Oh, and get off my lawn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Bit of gouging and soldering a push pull pot in and you can have a series parallel version of either then, I already have on mine as I'm a grown up with five strings and that function is standard P.S I never saw a sign about the grass and I forgot to bring any poo bags! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 You 2 - GET A ROOM!!! One, thing though McN, which way is the pup wired in the EBMM Sterling SUB USA? Mines got the 3 band EQ but seems to have more depth and punch than previous EBMM full fat Rays I've previously owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1490864986' post='3268564'] Well everyone wants to tell me that the SUB is EXACTLY the same regarding the electronics, if you can get to the connections on a SUB but not on a Ray then they must be different after all? [/quote] So does this mean it'll be difficult to put a series/parallel push pull on my Ray then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1490871810' post='3268634'] Bit of gouging and soldering a push pull pot in and you can have a series parallel version of either then, I already have on mine as I'm a grown up with five strings and that function is standard P.S I never saw a sign about the grass and I forgot to bring any poo bags! [/quote] I've got my air rifle ready by the window, you scoundrel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 [quote name='martthebass' timestamp='1490873175' post='3268645'] You 2 - GET A ROOM!!! One, thing though McN, which way is the pup wired in the EBMM Sterling SUB USA? Mines got the 3 band EQ but seems to have more depth and punch than previous EBMM full fat Rays I've previously owned. [/quote] Unfortunately, I have no idea what the EBMM Sterling SUB would be like. They're so rare I have only ever seen one in the flesh! If it has a ceramic pickup, like normal Sterlings do, maybe that accounts for some of the punchier tone. If it's wired in series then that for sure will give you a noticeably punchier sound. But I don't know what yours is like. If you ever get access to the bottom of the pickup, have a look (take a picture). The way they wire the pickups you can usually tell by eye without having to measure anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 [quote name='lee650' timestamp='1490877636' post='3268692'] So does this mean it'll be difficult to put a series/parallel push pull on my Ray then? [/quote] Not really. But there is a risk. Is it a big risk? Not really. But it stops me doing it unless I *really* want it, and contrary to what that guy who keeps leaving his pet's poo in my garden thinks, I don't *really* want it You have access to the ends of each coil from the bottom of the pickup. There is a small blob of solder at each end. You can use those to connect the coils to a switch if you want to. It is not a difficult thing... but you do need to be careful. Knowing what I know now, if my 2EQ Stingray were stock, I'd do it. I'd sweat a lot but I'd go for it and it would most likely go ok. But I replaced the the preamp with a 3-band MMSR from John East, which is pretty much the same 2EQ, but with an additional mids module that has a sweepable frequency selector and can be set flat, in which case it does nothing and you still have the 2EQ character. I like it enough to make me think that a series configuration in that bass would be pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) Cheers Mcnach! I'm actually going to get a pro to do it! I have an old Ray 5HH which is series wired (as per the Sterling) it sounds fantastic and really punches through a band mix,however I miss the parallel setting I had on my old sterling and want that option too.i wouldn't try and do something like that myself 😁 I'm also thinking of adding the East MM 3 band at the same time. Edited March 30, 2017 by lee650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Cheers McN, I will do at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 [quote name='lee650' timestamp='1490896756' post='3268942'] Cheers Mcnach! I'm actually going to get a pro to do it! I have an old Ray 5HH which is series wired (as per the Sterling) it sounds fantastic and really punches through a band mix,however I miss the parallel setting I had on my old sterling and want that option too.i wouldn't try and do something like that myself 😁 I'm also thinking of adding the East MM 3 band at the same time. [/quote] Isn't the fully rewards position H parallel? Or has it been tinkered with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1490900955' post='3268976'] Isn't the fully rewards position H parallel? Or has it been tinkered with. [/quote] NO mines a 2006 model which is all wired in Series! EB changed it to parallel in 2008,when they introduced the Sterling 5, so musicman must have thought it needed tinkering with 😉😁 it was to differentiate the two models I think! It sounds great,but I want the parallel setting as well. Edited March 30, 2017 by lee650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Trust The Bass Whisperer http://youtu.be/67Fo7AKwfA0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 [quote name='lee650' timestamp='1490906376' post='3269020'] NO mines a 2006 model which is all wired in Series! EB changed it to parallel in 2008,when they introduced the Sterling 5, so musicman must have thought it needed tinkering with 😉😁 it was to differentiate the two models I think! It sounds great,but I want the parallel setting as well. [/quote] Everyday is a school day! How many switch positions does it have? I'm sure it could be put 'right' easily enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1490907878' post='3269036'] Everyday is a school day! How many switch positions does it have? I'm sure it could be put 'right' easily enough. [/quote] It has 5 positions 1- bridge pickup in series 2-bridge pickup back single coil and neck pickup front coil in series 3- both humbuckers in parallel 4-bridge pick front coil and neck pick back coil in series 5- neck pickup in series. I just want to be able to switch them to parallel as per the modern versions 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I think I would too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 [quote name='lee650' timestamp='1490896756' post='3268942'] Cheers Mcnach! I'm actually going to get a pro to do it! I have an old Ray 5HH which is series wired (as per the Sterling) it sounds fantastic and really punches through a band mix,however I miss the parallel setting I had on my old sterling and want that option too.i wouldn't try and do something like that myself 😁 I'm also thinking of adding the East MM 3 band at the same time. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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