M@23 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Al Krow said: OMG! We've just added this to our covers set (Shut up and dance) - the 735A the active setting John mentioned earlier (i.e 3/4 J with boosted mids) totally nails that throaty tone! Right I'll shut up about this great bass now... That's a great tune for auditioning drummers 😂 I like to go all out fuzz for bass on it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, M@23 said: That's a great tune for auditioning drummers 😂 I like to go all out fuzz for bass on it! Actually adding a bit of dirt is definitely on point for that one, Mark! But if you're having to "put up with" 😀 a BB P34 (or was it a P35?) then I'm guessing then there's likely to be a little less inherent grit in the all passive circuitry in comparison to the 735A in active mode? Be interesting to A/B them at some point, but best if you do that without me as I'll just have a bad case of bass envy if I get to hear your BB P34 in the flesh 😂 Edited March 30, 2019 by Al Krow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Al Krow said: But if you're having to "put up with" 😀 a BB P34 (or was it a P35?) then I'm guessing then there's likely to be a little less inherent grit in the all passive circuitry in comparison to the 735A in active mode? I may be reading this incorrectly but an active circuit shouldn’t be introducing grit or dirt - mine doesn’t when matching those settings listed m. The song does need a dirt pedal to recreate the sound (obviously) but you may find the pushed mids overdriving your input? Is your amp clean to begin with or are your ‘boosted mids’ pushing a dirty amp? It could be a headroom issue or a battery needing replaced? What amp and cabs are you using? Edited March 30, 2019 by krispn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Not come across that Preamp adding grit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsmokebass Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Still wondering who's having to "put up with a BBP34/35" 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 1 hour ago, krispn said: I may be reading this incorrectly but an active circuit shouldn’t be introducing grit or dirt - mine doesn’t when matching those settings listed m. The song does need a dirt pedal to recreate the sound (obviously) but you may find the pushed mids overdriving your input? Is your amp clean to begin with or are your ‘boosted mids’ pushing a dirty amp? It could be a headroom issue or a battery needing replaced? What amp and cabs are you using? I'm using a Mesa M6 on setting 4 (slight mid boost) via a VK210. With a touch of mid boost on the active bass EQ. (Plenty of headroom and I'm not sure there's a better amp out there for the money! ) Delivers a punchy throaty mid on the 3/4 J setting. Remember there is no ability to push the mids on purely passive on the BB 735A (or other BBs), it's just a treble roll off. So you're going to get a different flavour tonally between active and passive settings. I know bass gurus such as Scott Devine say that active vs passive has no impact on bass tone. On the this one I'm struggling to see that he's entirely right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, bigsmokebass said: Still wondering who's having to "put up with a BBP34/35" 🙃 Did I incorrectly remember you getting both these lovely basses?! If so, I now understand the large amount of confusion I seem to have caused you from your 'reactions' today! "put up with" in the sense of e.g. having to put up with having Brian May as your dep guitarist if you happened to be in a Queen tribute band 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 So as @krispn said the bass pre-amp isn’t adding grit, the front of the amp is being pushed by a hotter signal, forcing the mids, and in addition you have made a portion of the mid signal hotter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsmokebass Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 56 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Did I incorrectly remember you getting both these lovely basses?! If so, I now understand the large amount of confusion I seem to have caused you from your 'reactions' today! "put up with" in the sense of e.g. having to put up with having Brian May as your dep guitarist if you happened to be in a Queen tribute band 😁 My confusion comes from your incompetence not knowing you're own equipment and not an insecurity of mine, not owning an active bass. I have no need for one when my amp and pedals do the job for me. I know if I need "dirt" that would be to add a little distortion and not to overdrive my amp to compromise my tone. I've invested a lot into my equipment because I know it will do the job for me and never let me down (apart from @AndyTravis BB300 which is a mere trophy for the collection 😜😂) I'm completely satisfied, I assure you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 @Al Krow sorry I wasn’t clear I meant ‘headroom’ with the preamp on the bass not the amp or possibly a dodgy battery in the bass. I know mine has some anomaly with the A string so wasn’t sure if there might have been something else at play. It does sound like the ‘boost’ from the on board pre is pushing the Mesa preamp but If it’s nailing the sound you’re after win win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@23 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 @Al Krow yes, I have the BBP35. Would love to A/B them. I'd really like a 735, but could do with a jazz V too, if I'm going to get a 2nd bass that'd probably be the way. I'd like another Sandberg too, going back to the earlier discussions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Make sure it’s passive...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bigsmokebass said: My confusion comes from your incompetence not knowing you're own equipment and not an insecurity of mine, not owning an active bass. I have no need for one when my amp and pedals do the job for me. I know if I need "dirt" that would be to add a little distortion and not to overdrive my amp to compromise my tone. I've invested a lot into my equipment because I know it will do the job for me and never let me down (apart from @AndyTravis BB300 which is a mere trophy for the collection 😜😂) I'm completely satisfied, I assure you. Aha so exploring a new piece of gear with mates is 'incompetence' in your world? I find myself understanding and in total agreement with @AndyTravis's earlier comment about you now! 😂 Hope you have a good evening gigging too. Edited March 30, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Andy said we love him long and short time I don’t get where it’s not bromance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Is this turning into a love triangle? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Just now, Cuzzie said: Is this turning into a love triangle? More of a tripod... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Just now, Cuzzie said: Andy said we love him long and short time I don’t get where it’s not bromance I also said he was a d*ckhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 But it looks nothing like a mallard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Cuzzie said: But it looks nothing like a mallard You quack me up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: I also said he was a d*ckhead. I've got a sneaky suspicion that it was old King Lear who said that "never a truer word than spoken in jest". I bet he was incompetent on bass as well 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Al Krow said: I've got a sneaky suspicion that it was old King Lear who said that "never a truer word than spoken in jest". I bet he was incompetent on bass as well 😀 I wasn’t jesting. Every time I talk to him I think it a bit more. 😏 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 That’s bollox, this is written. King Lear is just an anagram for Ring Leak which aptly describes some of the drivel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: That’s bollox, this is written. King Lear is just an anagram for Ring Leak which aptly describes some of the drivel I’m gonna have ring leak in the morning. Two lots of buffet and lots of beer... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Of course you could go Johnny Cash, he also had one of fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsmokebass Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 So this came up on my YouTube recommended, always sit there in awe at just how good Mr East is and how funky the BB basses are 🤤 Also saw another video from Bass Musician Magazine where he does drop in about a Silent Bass, headless 5 string (now seen as the recent 6 string bass) and how he hopes to get them into production this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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