krispn Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Cue the inevitable @Al Krow ‘Two of the very best trainers for indie!’ thread. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, krispn said: Cue the inevitable @Al Krow ‘Two of the very best trainers for indie!’ thread. Can't work out whether that should be posted in 'Off Topic' or 'General Discussion' though, or perhaps more accurately... 'Accessories...' ?? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassfan Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Can't work out whether that should be posted in 'Off Topic' or 'General Discussion' though, or perhaps more accurately... 'Accessories...' ?? 😂 Show us your gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 "Hi, I'm Jack Bates of the Smashing Pumpkins and my dad was Peter Hook of Joy Division (and we all love Yamahas)". Sometimes the dice are just loaded, right?! 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) On 29/03/2019 at 16:07, jrixn1 said: Was it the B string? I think that's how it comes stock. The saddles are reversible - I think it's something to do with the string break angle (?). Really good comment relating to the reversed saddle on the B string (from a TBer who doesn't actually own the bass). If this guy is correct, I may need to put mine back to reversed factory setting for the B string! "If I may suggest, I do think the B saddle is a way to improve the tone of the B string. That sharp angle moves the witness point back a little, so the saddle sits a little further forward than it would otherwise. This, along with the angled string-through-body feature, reduces the break angle of the string quite a bit. IME, when a B string has a really sharp break angle due to traditional string-through design, once the bend causes the winding to separate, even a new B string can sound dead and lifeless compared to the other strings. I avoid stringing the B through the body (if I have a choice) for this very reason. To my eye, Yamaha may have solved this problem with a couple fairly simple improvements." Edited March 31, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Did anybody recently buy a bass let's say from Japan or the US? I wonder how "dangerous" it is to order from outside the EU concerning this CITES regulations..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 The connection to this BB thread is of course a BB.. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) I'm pretty sure that pretty much all the UK bass players on this thread will have got their Yammy BBs from UK suppliers (or Thomann UK) when they have bought new. Edited April 4, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Not me, I think I bought my BB1025X for something like £675 from Thomann when most places over here were selling them for £850. I don't know the risks when it comes to CITES, but there is a dedicated thread on the subject somewhere around these parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, dannybuoy said: Not me, I think I bought my BB1025X for something like £675 from Thomann when most places over here were selling them for £850. I got my BB1025 new (end of line) from the Yammy store in London for £550 when most places had been selling them for £675 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Cool, thanks. There is a light on the horizon! Cites may exclude instruments/ parts in the future (2019) That makes espacially japanese online Stores more interesting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Here is an old pic of the BB body I still have resting on the same guitar stand like my 1000... maybe I should do it..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 @AndyTravis et al Just had a mate ask me if the bass he was looking at was a BB414. Looked like it to me. But visually and construction wise what are the key differences between the 414 and the 424? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Al Krow said: @AndyTravis et al Just had a mate ask me if the bass he was looking at was a BB414. Looked like it to me. But visually and construction wise what are the key differences between the 414 and the 424? 424’s have stripey necks and string through body bridges. 414’s have 1 piece necks and top load bridges. Edited April 4, 2019 by AndyTravis 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Stripey necks...I mean “multi laminated selected hardwoods”...maple and nato if I rightly remember. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Painted headstock on the 414 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) Interesting, so visually little difference from the front. But both design features could be considered an improvement in the later model i.e. laminated neck = greater strength and string through arguably better than bridge for even string tension. Very little difference in price between the 414s and 424s these days. Edited April 4, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, dannybuoy said: Painted headstock on the 414 too. Makes all the difference, we all know MHS basses sound 10% cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Al Krow said: Interesting, so visually little difference from the front. But both design features could be considered an improvement in the later model i.e. laminated neck = greater strength and string through arguably better than bridge for even string tension. Very little difference in price between the 414s and 424s these days. I love my 414, split equally with my 1024, it’s a bit nastier...🤦🏻♂️😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) I like the colours of the 414 better. 700series colours are a bit.... boring too 😞 Edited April 4, 2019 by gobasserk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, gobasserk said: I like the colours of the 414 better. 700series colours are a bit.... boring too 😞 No question the colours are limited on the 734/5. The tonal range is anything but, however! I guess it depends whether you're primarily buying your bass as a fashion accessory or to sound great? Each to their own of course 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I would love to have the chance to buy a BB that combines best of both worlds. It would not be THAT difficult for a company like Yamaha - who did it in former years 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gobasserk said: I would love to have the chance to buy a BB that combines best of both worlds. It would not be THAT difficult for a company like Yamaha - who did it in former years 😉 I have to agree with you. I was going to try to hold out in getting a a BB 735A until they made them available in white (in my case). And I would totally pay extra if they made them neck through like the older BB 1200 / 1200S models! But then one came up used for a good price with very few 'miles on the clock' and I couldn't resist! Two weeks in and I'm very glad I didn't try to put off buying; it's an excellent bass. I'll just need to get a colourful hand bag as a fashion accessory I guess... Edited April 4, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) I don't know if that sounds weird but every time I try out a 734 against a BBP in the Musicstore I always prefer the 734. -For me- the neck fells better and it is the far more better bass when it comes to feel and playability. I always try to think, tha's not possible, but I won't buy a BBP ... Fender must be Yamaha's aim when it comes to colours... by the way I liked the 414 better than the 424. Had both. For the neck through... I love the neck through BBs but I prefer the bolt ones tone wise. It features my fingerstyle playing better with more punch. Are you happy with the b string? Have not played a 735 yet. Edited April 4, 2019 by gobasserk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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