TheGreek Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 6-8 weeks? Isn't there anybody here who can custom build one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 minute ago, TheGreek said: 6-8 weeks? Isn't there anybody here who can custom build one? I’ve sorted it. But just handy for anyone who wanted a black Yamaha (official) one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just noted that the 435 has the extended bridge piece for the B string, not present on the 735A or the P35. Struggling to see why Yammy are still doing this given that the 435 is a string through body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 And how did I fail to spot that the BB234/5 are available in vintage white?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Al Krow said: Just noted that the 435 has the extended bridge piece for the B string, not present on the 735A or the P35. Struggling to see why Yammy are still doing this given that the 435 is a string through body? Options...and maybe it’s cheaper for them to keep doing the same bridge they’ve been doing since the 415 rather than re-tooling and changing. If my old 415 and 425x were anything to go by, I’d say it’s a good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 better balance across the strings either tension or tonal i'm guessing. Not seen that done before. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, Al Krow said: And how did I fail to spot that the BB234/5 are available in vintage white?! Now that in a 4 stringer would be nice. Mmmm STOP IT Al. its not fair. GAS is rising again. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 As the others have said, the extended B stringing gives options and a tauter feel when stringing through the bridge rather than through the body. The question for me is why they didn’t do it for the 735 and P35! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 Andy - totally makes sense in the 415 as it wasn't string through body (right?) But since then I'm not so sure other than your economics point of, "oh we've got a few thousand of these bridge pieces knocking around which still need using up!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Al Krow said: And how did I fail to spot that the BB234/5 are available in vintage white?! I told you ages ago and said “put a preamp in it” 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said: Now that in a 4 stringer would be nice. Mmmm STOP IT Al. its not fair. GAS is rising again. Dave You could pick up a BB 234 / 5 for less than the cost of swapping the pups and EQ on another more rip-off design bass that charges designer prices 🤣 Joshing aside, dv247 are doing a brand new BB 235 for £300 and a BB 234 for £265! But seriously don't click on that link. As it's then only one step further to hitting the order button. Edited May 12, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, AndyTravis said: I told you ages ago and said “put a preamp in it” 😂 You're starting to sound just like Mrs Krow! Except she never mentions preamps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, therealting said: As the others have said, the extended B stringing gives options and a tauter feel when stringing through the bridge rather than through the body. The question for me is why they didn’t do it for the 735 and P35! But only the 415 is stringing through the bridge, the 425 and 435 are body through stringing and they both have the extended bridge piece - why? The 1025, 735A and P35 are all body through and, quite rightly, don't have the extended bridge piece. However, the 235 is stringing through the bridge and doesn't have the extended B string bridge piece. Methinks Yammy are using their surplus bridge piece stock on the wrong basses! i.e. they should be using them on the 235 and not the 435 (where they look a bit weird and serve no purpose). Edited May 12, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, therealting said: As the others have said, the extended B stringing gives options and a tauter feel when stringing through the bridge rather than through the body. The question for me is why they didn’t do it for the 735 and P35! Because it is a crap design and looks ugly, it would put me off buying a P35. The reason the B is pushed back is because the saddle needs to go further back in order to intonate correctly, and it just needed more room. A better solution would have been to redesign and/or move the bridge, which is they did with the 1025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, Al Krow said: You could pick up a BB 234 / 5 for less than the cost of swapping the pups and EQ on another more rip-off design bass that charges designer prices 🤣 Joshing aside, dv247 are doing a brand new BB 235 for £300 and a BB 234 for £265! But seriously don't click on that link. As it's then only one step further to hitting the order button. Need to go try one see what its like but i have a notion for the 2nd hand black BB3000 i posted earlier. New kitchen being done in couple of months so need to wait till next year. 60th birthday so that might work very well and the Yamaha shape fits in well with my 70;s Glam covers band. Al...........i'm beginning to hate you Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassfan Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said: Al...........i'm beginning to hate you That’s a well known symptom of the “Krow effect” 😂😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, bassfan said: That’s a well known symptom of the “Krow effect” 😂😂 Haha... @bassfan has ended up with a Mesa M6 and is on the way to getting his second (rather lush) Yamaha BB. And he's even got a pedal board. Not sure any of these were part of his 5 year plan 😂 @dmccombe7 a vintage white BB finished like this for your 70s glam covers band? Now you're talking! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassfan Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Not sure any of these were part of his 5 year plan 😂 If I had a plan they definitely wouldn’t have been on it and they certainly aren’t on the wife’s! , although the M6 was a good buy to be fair it is now my main gigging rig! I didn’t need the pedal board and still don’t really, neither do I need the yammys... damn that NE2 of yours. Edited May 12, 2019 by bassfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Al Krow said: But only the 415 is stringing through the bridge, the 425 and 435 are body through stringing and they both have the extended bridge piece - why? The 1025, 735A and P35 are all body through and, quite rightly, don't have the extended bridge piece. However, the 235 is stringing through the bridge and doesn't have the extended B string bridge piece. Methinks Yammy are using their surplus bridge piece stock on the wrong basses! i.e. they should be using them on the 235 and not the 435 (where they look a bit weird and serve no purpose). The 435 isn’t just string through though, it offers two options of either string through bridge or through body. Economically, it would make more sense to use the same bridge for all the 3 series basses rather than two different ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) Except, I have to agree with dB that it doesn't look that good! And given the choice of through body or through bridge, I would go for through body every time. Edited May 12, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Al Krow said: Except, I have to agree with dB that it doesn't look that good! And given the choice of through body or through bridge, I would go for through body every time. I don’t disagree... but I also hated the pickup surrounds on the older BBs so everyone’s different! I tried both stringing options and have stuck with through-body. Astounded to have all those options on a bass that cost so little though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, therealting said: ... I tried both stringing options and have stuck with through-body. Did you hear / notice anything much different? I've just been focusing on the (allegedly) reduced stress on the strings as per the Yammy blurb (propaganda? 😂) “Diagonal Body Thru Stringing,” where strings are angled at the saddle and pass through the instrument to the bridge at a 45º angle, as opposed to the traditional vertical stringing method which places more stress on the strings. Diagonal Body Thru Stringing significantly reduces this stress while transferring string vibration to the body reliably and efficiently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Al Krow said: Did you hear / notice anything much different? I've just been focusing on the (allegedly) reduced stress on the strings as per the Yammy blurb (propaganda? 😂) “Diagonal Body Thru Stringing,” where strings are angled at the saddle and pass through the instrument to the bridge at a 45º angle, as opposed to the traditional vertical stringing method which places more stress on the strings. Diagonal Body Thru Stringing significantly reduces this stress while transferring string vibration to the body reliably and efficiently. Not very much in it, a smidge more attacky through the bridge, more sustainy through the body. Similar to bolt-on, neck through. YMMV. I think the diagonal stringing just means there is less bend on the strings at the saddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Al Krow said: Haha... @bassfan has ended up with a Mesa M6 and is on the way to getting his second (rather lush) Yamaha BB. And he's even got a pedal board. Not sure any of these were part of his 5 year plan 😂 @dmccombe7 a vintage white BB finished like this for your 70s glam covers band? Now you're talking! Maybe in a 4 stringer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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