Cuzzie Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 20:34, MattiZ said: Not comfortable doing that. Electronics I can cope with, but any kind of woodwork, nope. Expand Luthier - if it’s a keeper, worth the cost Quote
AndyTravis Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 21:29, Cuzzie said: Luthier - if it’s a keeper, worth the cost Expand I did a defret was great fun Quote
Al Krow Posted December 28, 2020 Author Posted December 28, 2020 Or just buy a fretless with an ebony fretboard which is better designed to take the wear and tear of fretless playing? Quote
AndyTravis Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 21:43, Al Krow said: Or just buy a fretless with an ebony fretboard which is better designed to take the wear and tear of fretless playing? Expand Bah humbug, don’t believe the hype. Defret and enjoy... 😉 Quote
Cuzzie Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 21:43, Al Krow said: Or just buy a fretless with an ebony fretboard which is better designed to take the wear and tear of fretless playing? Expand Ebony is generally harder wearing than rosewood for example, but is tonally different and more like maple. All depends if you want a darker or brighter tone, or what look you want as well. Look after the wood, use flatwounds, I can’t see it being a problem. Why Ebony above another wood? Quote
Al Krow Posted December 28, 2020 Author Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 21:48, AndyTravis said: Bah humbug, don’t believe the hype. Defret and enjoy... 😉 Expand Haha - not saying de-fretting isn't a valid option, for some. Personally I'm with @MattiZ on this - I wouldn't defret a perfectly good fretted bass; I'd rather buy a bass that was fretless from the outset. 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 22:01, Al Krow said: Haha - not saying de-fretting isn't a valid option, for some. Personally I'm with @MattiZ on this - I wouldn't defret a perfectly good fretted bass; I'd rather buy a bass that was fretless from the outset. Expand You’ve never played a bass I’ve defretted... Also. Jaco Pastorius... Ahem... Quote
Al Krow Posted December 28, 2020 Author Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 22:06, AndyTravis said: You’ve never played a bass I’ve defretted... Also. Jaco Pastorius... Ahem... Expand Can't argue with that: I've never played a bass you've defretted...or indeed one defretted by Jaco 😁 1 Quote
LukeFRC Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 22/12/2020 at 10:37, Misdee said: Just had a read, very interesting. I have had countless similar disappointments when it comes to trying acclaimed basses and being underwhelmed. I too am unlikely to be playing the bass through two amps. At the moment I am only playing at home , mainly through headphones. The best I could manage is to play it through two pairs of headphones, but I've only got one pair of ears. Maybe I could email Billy and ask him what I should do. 😄 Expand HXstomp - feed in two signals and process them separately and mix to mono.... (or send two signals too the PA) On 28/12/2020 at 22:06, AndyTravis said: You’ve never played a bass I’ve defretted... Also. Jaco Pastorius... Ahem... Expand Did he play a bass you had defretted? Quote
Al Krow Posted December 28, 2020 Author Posted December 28, 2020 PS @AndyTravis - very nice job! 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 22:08, LukeFRC said: Yes he did ”that my cocker is f*ckin bangin - nice one lad!” the next day, Zawinul calls him - the rest is history... 1 Quote
LukeFRC Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 22:10, AndyTravis said: Yes he did ”that my cocker is f*ckin bangin - nice one lad!” the next day, Zawinul calls him - the rest is history... Expand I heard he slept in and Zawinul had to call you in to lay down the bass parts that day. 1 Quote
Cuzzie Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 22:07, AndyTravis said: @Al Krow Expand Good job sir! Each to their own, but I can’t see what the difference between a de-fretted neck and a neck made without frets is, granted it depends where your dot/markers are be they middle of the frets or on the actual fret - once you learn where they are, you know how to play it. If there are no or very little bases fretless in the model someone wants, but a plethora of fretted ones, and the cost to de-fret is less than buying a whole new bass, makes perfect sense. Buy a second neck and have one of each Quote
AndyTravis Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 22:16, LukeFRC said: I heard he slept in and Zawinul had to call you in to lay down the bass parts that day. Expand I heard that, Luther Vandross did the same for his albums. I have to admit I stole the batteries out of Marcus’ alarm clock that time... Quote
AndyTravis Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) On 28/12/2020 at 22:16, Cuzzie said: Good job sir! Each to their own, but I can’t see what the difference between a de-fretted neck and a neck made without frets is, granted it depends where your dot/markers are be they middle of the frets or on the actual fret - once you learn where they are, you know how to play it. If there are no or very little bases fretless in the model someone wants, but a plethora of fretted ones, and the cost to de-fret is less than buying a whole new bass, makes perfect sense. Buy a second neck and have one of each Expand I enjoyed that project, used it for 3 gigs with a soul singer. It was a gear4music jobbie. Had a mate who worked in their stockroom. it had a faulty machine head and was returned: I paid £60 for it, £10 for the wood and glue, a machine head was in my parts draw. I sold it for £150, with a clean conscience - was a great bass, plugged in was warm and clear - and the volume was acceptable for unplugged practice. Edited December 28, 2020 by AndyTravis 2 Quote
dave_bass5 Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 Ive got a Lakland JO maple Jazz neck sitting around that ive been thinking (for the past 5 years) of getting de fretted. This thread has reminded me. Might do something about it next year. Quote
MattiZ Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 22:01, Al Krow said: Haha - not saying de-fretting isn't a valid option, for some. Personally I'm with @MattiZ on this - I wouldn't defret a perfectly good fretted bass; I'd rather buy a bass that was fretless from the outset. Expand Exactly. I’m fine with DIY - if somebody else does it. Never really played a fretless (only tried briefly), might not even like the feel. And it seems to be very hard to find any fretless basses for sale locally (not to mention any BBs). If there’s no other option, I might consider getting, say, a BB234 defretted, if I could find one in the first place! Quote
LukeFRC Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 22:27, dave_bass5 said: Ive got a Lakland JO maple Jazz neck sitting around that ive been thinking (for the past 5 years) of getting de fretted. This thread has reminded me. Might do something about it next year. Expand Maple fretboard is going to be harder to do as you will need to relaquer it. 1 Quote
LukeFRC Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 22:30, MattiZ said: Never really played a fretless (only tried briefly), might not even like the feel. Expand I've had a fretless a few times. I end up sounding just like I do on a fretted but sometimes slightly out of tune, and with more slides. Probably tells you more about my playing than fretless though. 1 3 Quote
LukeFRC Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 On 28/12/2020 at 22:17, AndyTravis said: I heard that, Luther Vandross did the same for his albums. I have to admit I stole the batteries out of Marcus’ alarm clock that time... Expand I heard Thundercat had to get Ibanez to build him a 6 string to keep up with the parts you had laid down on a 4 string. He was a bit annoyed that someone had pulled the emergency stop chain on the train he was on... 1 Quote
dave_bass5 Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) On 28/12/2020 at 22:32, LukeFRC said: Maple fretboard is going to be harder to do as you will need to relaquer it. Expand Oh no, not me, I meant getting it done by someone that knows what they are doing. Like a few others I’m happy to do the electric’s and change the hardware, but that as about it. I just don’t have the correct tools, and it seems pointless getting them for a one off. Edited December 28, 2020 by dave_bass5 1 Quote
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Guest Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 On 19/12/2020 at 20:00, dave_bass5 said: I have a BB425 and yes, its a bit hotter and has a bit more bite to it. Its the only PJ or JJ ive had that I could play the bridge pup and not feel a drop in body and volume. Expand Have you ever put Daddario Pro Steels or Rotosound Swing Bass strings or something similar on your 425? Quote
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