gobasserk Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 Well, at least there is still a BB range. But I will never understand why no company does REAL reissues of their cult models. Even the BP34 comes in boring blues band colours.... The Hook bass is a first and only try and without Peter Hook even this would not have been realized. Quote
Guest Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) I've had my BB424 a couple of weeks now and I'm still extremely pleased with it. I've carried on listening to as many youtube demos of the various models as I can bear, and feel that, for the sound I was wanting this was exactly the right model for me, not just against the 414 and 434, but even against the more expensive Series 2 models. So thank you to everyone who shared their thoughts and gave me advice back in December. I'm very shy of dipping my toe into the debate about what a bass's neck contributes to the tone, but I'm sure I can sense the combination of the thick neck + the strings coming through the body contributing something to the ringing tone. So I'm glad I went 424 rather than 414 for that. I can see why Yahama changed the style of the pickups from 424 to 434, can understand why the market would prefer the new ones, but for what I want the character has been diluted. Played side by side with the skinny TRBX, the 424's neck is more challenging, but since I can (rightly or wrongly) sense what it's contributing to the glorious sound, that extra effort feels exciting, not difficult. Edited January 19, 2021 by Ricky Rioli Quote
Cuzzie Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 Don’t be afraid - neck makes a difference definitely 1 Quote
krispn Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: Don’t be afraid - neck makes a difference definitely I said somewhere else recently but those early Fender 51-54’s with the ‘baseball bat’ necks sounds great because of the chunky necks not in spite of them. 2 Quote
gobasserk Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) I bought two cheap Telecaster basses as a diy project in spring and I do now have two absolute genius rockets. New tuners here, a new pick up there, even a new finish.. they look great but the best about these basses are the thick chunky necks! Not for Dream Theatre stuff...but they do Rock n Roll very (!!!) good ! Edited January 19, 2021 by gobasserk 2 Quote
Cuzzie Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 Good to remember that Chunky don’t mean clunky, depending on the radius and your hands it can be chunky and funky 1 Quote
gobasserk Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 It's just that I seem to like metal stuff in the area of pick ups 😛 1 Quote
discotim Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Afternoon all. Excuse the rather basic question but Taiwanese v Japanese BB1100s: is there a big difference in the quality? Thanks in advance Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, discotim said: Afternoon all. Excuse the rather basic question but Taiwanese v Japanese BB1100s: is there a big difference in the quality? Thanks in advance Nope, not a bit - if you find a transition one about 1986/7 with the square pickup surround on the P they’re identical apart from country of origin. The Taiwanese ones can be a fair bit lighter. I preferred that one to the 1988 one I had with the more straightforward p/j pickups sound wise - but the physical quality was identical again. 2 Quote
ProfJames Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: Nope, not a bit - if you find a transition one about 1986/7 with the square pickup surround on the P they’re identical apart from country of origin. The Taiwanese ones can be a fair bit lighter. I preferred that one to the 1988 one I had with the more straightforward p/j pickups sound wise - but the physical quality was identical again. Ditto the comments above. I have played both and the difference in weight was quite noticeable. I could not discern any difference in sound along with other bass players 1 Quote
Reggaebass Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 What model is Nathan playing here, I like this one Quote
woolf Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) BB2024X Edited January 20, 2021 by woolf 1 Quote
TheGreek Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 I'm going to stick my head up over the parapet now... Now I love the necks, the electronics and the tonal package but TBH I'm not a big fan of the body shape. IMO the body is too big and I don't like the top horn. If they made a smaller, more modern design (Spector/Warwick/ Ibanez) I'd be more inclined to buy and keep one. I have been tempted to buy one and send it off to @Andyjr1515 to transplant everything into something along the lines of my suggestion - not too dissimilar to the BE2 (wish they would make them at a more Yamaha price range - i.e great VFM). I wonder if the parts fit any of those cheap "build yourself" basses on eBay?? Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, Reggaebass said: What model is Nathan playing here, I like this one Bb2024x vintage white 1 Quote
Reggaebass Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, AndyTravis said: Bb2024x vintage white Cheers Andy 👍 Quote
Reggaebass Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, woolf said: BB2024X Cheers Woolf 👍 Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Reggaebass said: Cheers Andy 👍 1024x also available in vintage white so used about £500, and bb424x available in white so about £250/300 for very similar look. god bless Yamaha post 2005 and their hilarious decision to make 3 price tiers in all the same boring colours Edited January 20, 2021 by AndyTravis 1 1 Quote
Reggaebass Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: 1024x also available in vintage white so used about £500, and bb424x available in white so about £250/300 for very similar look. That’s great, thanks for the info, I do like the vintage white Quote
Guest Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: 1024x also available in vintage white so used about £500, and bb424x available in white so about £250/300 for very similar look. god bless Yamaha post 2005 and their hilarious decision to make 3 price tiers in all the same boring colours Some guy did a comparison video of the 424 1024 2024....all white Quote
Al Krow Posted January 20, 2021 Author Posted January 20, 2021 The 1024 and 2024 (x => scratch plate and a bit more chrome) are very close indeed in terms of spec (I guess think Mex vs USA Fender as the analogy); the 424 is a little "flatter" and the 1024 / 2024 more harmonically rich in terms of pups. If you really like the 2024 then I'd have no hesitation in recommending a used 1024 for less than half the price of a used 2024. 1 Quote
Reggaebass Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Al Krow said: If you really like the 2024 then I'd have no hesitation in recommending a used 1024 for less than half the price of a used 2024. Great advice Al , top man 👍 Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, Reggaebass said: Great advice Al , top man 👍 I picked a 414 (same pickups as 424) over a 1024. just so the balance in the force is restored 1 Quote
MDWagstaff Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, TheGreek said: I'm going to stick my head up over the parapet now... Now I love the necks, the electronics and the tonal package but TBH I'm not a big fan of the body shape. IMO the body is too big and I don't like the top horn. If they made a smaller, more modern design (Spector/Warwick/ Ibanez) I'd be more inclined to buy and keep one. I have been tempted to buy one and send it off to @Andyjr1515 to transplant everything into something along the lines of my suggestion - not too dissimilar to the BE2 (wish they would make them at a more Yamaha price range - i.e great VFM). I wonder if the parts fit any of those cheap "build yourself" basses on eBay?? They did this about 15-20 years ago with the BB604/404 and the BB2004 series basses Quote
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