krispn Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I think a bike fan has added the DT250 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javi_bassist Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Hello guys I've finally spotted a BB605 in that sexy red that I love. So, it's on its way. It should arrive next week. In the meantime, does any of you have one? I'd like to know more about the preamp and the pickups. I thought it was like the 735 but the switch affects the mids I think. Any experience/recommendation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, javi_bassist said: Hello guys I've finally spotted a BB605 in that sexy red that I love. So, it's on its way. It should arrive next week. In the meantime, does any of you have one? I'd like to know more about the preamp and the pickups. I thought it was like the 735 but the switch affects the mids I think. Any experience/recommendation? I just really remember liking the bb604, a real “sleeper” bass as they don’t go for silly money. Edit - this chap is on a lot of Yamaha groups on Facebook and seems to utilise a 605WR to great effect https://www.facebook.com/100000516907786/posts/4391140704246450/?d=n Edited February 18, 2021 by AndyTravis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWagstaff Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, javi_bassist said: Hello guys I've finally spotted a BB605 in that sexy red that I love. So, it's on its way. It should arrive next week. In the meantime, does any of you have one? I'd like to know more about the preamp and the pickups. I thought it was like the 735 but the switch affects the mids I think. Any experience/recommendation? I had one for about 2 years. It was a perfectly fine bass, could benefit with new electronics and tbh I wasn't a huge fan of the neck. The switch activates a sweepable mid-scoop control. I didn't have much use for this, although it was useful for giving a pseudo-volume jump for tapping or slapping parts if you don't have a compressor. I did like the redbust/gold combination 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Feeling sorrowful at the continuing non-appearance of the bass I ordered way back in September, I had a go at persecuting myself by thinking of readily-available shiny new basses I could have bought instead. Eg the BBP34. One of the videos of the I just watched was an A/B comparison of it alongside a Fender Original 60s P. When the neck pickup, there was almost no difference at all. So the lesson to be learnt was that if you want a P, you should buy a BBP, but since I don't want a P, my attempt to annoy myself failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javi_bassist Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, MDWagstaff said: I had one for about 2 years. It was a perfectly fine bass, could benefit with new electronics and tbh I wasn't a huge fan of the neck. The switch activates a sweepable mid-scoop control. I didn't have much use for this, although it was useful for giving a pseudo-volume jump for tapping or slapping parts if you don't have a compressor. I did like the redbust/gold combination Cool pic! And thanks for the info. Actually, I already thought about changing the pickups and the preamp. I want to see if I like the stock ones, but I will probably put on some Delano pickups and I'm not sure about the preamp. I like the 3 band by Nordstrand, but I won't know until I got it. Anyway, my main bass will still be the BB735. Edited February 18, 2021 by javi_bassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ricky Rioli said: Feeling sorrowful at the continuing non-appearance of the bass I ordered way back in September, I had a go at persecuting myself by thinking of readily-available shiny new basses I could have bought instead. Eg the BBP34. One of the videos of the I just watched was an A/B comparison of it alongside a Fender Original 60s P. When the neck pickup, there was almost no difference at all. So the lesson to be learnt was that if you want a P, you should buy a BBP, but since I don't want a P, my attempt to annoy myself failed. What did you order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Btw, the other day I was complaining about the blend knob on my TRBX being of limited utility. Since then I've read - and again the technical details went miles over my head - that blend knobs work much better on active basses. My opinion had been based solely from using it on passive. And now I think about it, I've noticed that Yamaha have Vol-Blend on active basses (eg BB734, TRBX604) and Vol-Vol on passive (eg BBP34, BB434, TRBX174) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I prefer blend knobs to volume / volume, but yes, you are right, they aren't as useful on passive basses, as at full blend your pickups have half the volume down anyway. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, LukeFRC said: What did you order? An SB-1 (I didn't want to send the thread down a G&L sidetrack again!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: I prefer blend knobs to volume / volume, but yes, you are right, they aren't as useful on passive basses, as at full blend your pickups have half the volume down anyway. Look for a MN to replace the AC... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Those are pot tapers (if anyone didn't know). If you use the correct pot, it will be full volume both in the middle and at either end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Ricky Rioli said: Btw, the other day I was complaining about the blend knob on my TRBX being of limited utility. Since then I've read - and again the technical details went miles over my head - that blend knobs work much better on active basses. My opinion had been based solely from using it on passive. And now I think about it, I've noticed that Yamaha have Vol-Blend on active basses (eg BB734, TRBX604) and Vol-Vol on passive (eg BBP34, BB434, TRBX174) 1 hour ago, Woodinblack said: I prefer blend knobs to volume / volume, but yes, you are right, they aren't as useful on passive basses, as at full blend your pickups have half the volume down anyway. 1 hour ago, jrixn1 said: Those are pot tapers (if anyone didn't know). If you use the correct pot, it will be full volume both in the middle and at either end. It's an ineresting point. On my purely active Spector which blends purely via separate V/V knobs for each pup, if one pup is maxed at 10/10 I only really notice the other pup starting to impact tone at 7/10 and only having a significant tonal impact at 9 or 10, which kinda ties in with your comments above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) I think there are two different issues. The first is the blend knob not doing much actual blending. On some basses I've found them to behave more like a three-way switch; i.e. just a small amount off centre sounds the same as rotating it all the way. Same with VVT; one pickup on full + one pickup nearly on full is not much different to one pickup on full + the other one off. The second is using the correct type of blend pot. In the centre position (i.e. on the detent, if you have one), you should be getting 100% neck and 100% bridge. If you're only getting 50% neck and 50% bridge, you have the wrong pot taper. However, if you get mega volume and tone drop on equal blend, it might be that your pickups are out of phase. (I think this might apply more for a bass with identical pickups, like a jazz bass? Not sure.) If so, swap the wires of just one pickup. Edited February 18, 2021 by jrixn1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 There are electrical differences too - two volumes uses two 250k Ohm (or whatever value) pots... a blend control uses three 250 Ohm tracks (in two pots). The pots at 100% in the centre are labelled MN One of the main selling points of some of John East's preamps is he uses active buffered blend so each pickup isn't effecting the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fil1ip Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I kind of know the answer but I'll ask Seem a BB425 for sale not local etc. No hard case only gig bag but will post and bank transfer only no PayPal. Should I just stay away ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Someone has to ask.....is it 🔴 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fil1ip Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ricky Rioli said: Someone has to ask.....is it 🔴 ? Yes it is 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Audere preamps are a good solution to the blend issue. Instead of passive mixing just before the preamp like most active basses, the preamp buffers each pickup individually and the blend then works more like the cross fader on a DJ mixer. Nice smooth transition end to end rather than impedance issues getting in the way that make it behave more like a 3-way switch. I don’t know if there are any other preamps that take this approach? Only downside I guess would be that you wouldn’t faithfully replicate the tones you get from a passive bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Agreed Audere are very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, dannybuoy said: . I don’t know if there are any other preamps that take this approach? Only downside I guess would be that you wouldn’t faithfully replicate the tones you get from a passive bass. There is at least one where it is an option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneKing Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 13 hours ago, dannybuoy said: Audere preamps are a good solution to the blend issue. Instead of passive mixing just before the preamp like most active basses, the preamp buffers each pickup individually and the blend then works more like the cross fader on a DJ mixer. Nice smooth transition end to end rather than impedance issues getting in the way that make it behave more like a 3-way switch. I don’t know if there are any other preamps that take this approach? Only downside I guess would be that you wouldn’t faithfully replicate the tones you get from a passive bass. From memory John East pre-amps have an 'active' style blend. Quote: Totally independent active and passive signal paths guarantee completely smooth blend when set to active. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, GreeneKing said: From memory John East pre-amps have an 'active' style blend. Quote: Totally independent active and passive signal paths guarantee completely smooth blend when set to active. it's almost as if I hadn't said that a few posts up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneKing Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, LukeFRC said: it's almost as if I hadn't said that a few posts up! Yep I missed your post only seeing DannyBuoys where he asks if there's any other than Audere. Edited February 19, 2021 by GreeneKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Will talk to a guy about refinishing one of my 1000ma's in candy apple red today.... I think I like that 😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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