gobasserk Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Hmmm...maybe. But I think owners of the Berg B|Amp would differ with that conclusion! Of course they do. Doesn't matter to me 🙂 I went to the "Musicstore" in Cologne willing to buy the (for me) best sounding amp three years ago. Not a joke ! I ended up with an Hartke LH1000. The Hartke stuff is in the same test room as the Glockenklang ... That nice, warm and NATURAL bass growl.... was only to be heard in analog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, gobasserk said: The green BB's are rare. The 3000ma even more. Black ones are on ebay from time to time. Yeah I’d imagine it was a short run. The bass did sound good on its own and while the geddy peda was adding something (as I alluded to earlier today) you can hear the inherent sound of you listen to the clean then ‘dirty’ version. It’s got more oomph than my jazz but I find a 350hz bump fills it out nicely. The MA does have the p character come across loud and clear much like you say a JJ won’t sound quite the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, gobasserk said: Of course they do. Doesn't matter to me 🙂 I went to the "Musicstore" in Cologne willing to buy the (for me) best sounding amp three years ago. Not a joke ! I ended up with an Hartke LH1000. The Hartke stuff is in the same test room as the Glockenklang ... That nice, warm and NATURAL bass growl.... was only to be heard in analog. Hard to beat the passive tone stack and good old transformer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, gobasserk said: Everytime the band came in...bass was gone! I've advocated this before - KILL THE GUITARIST!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Same with neo speakers... and it is funny that they tell you that with the neo cabs you'd get exactly out of it what you put in... but played over a digital amp it is not the instrument ..it is an analog signal transfered into digital and put together again. And it does sound different. this is not denied by anyone... 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, gobasserk said: Of course they do. Doesn't matter to me 🙂 I went to the "Musicstore" in Cologne willing to buy the (for me) best sounding amp three years ago. Not a joke ! I ended up with an Hartke LH1000. The Hartke stuff is in the same test room as the Glockenklang ... That nice, warm and NATURAL bass growl.... was only to be heard in analog. Well my own experience ties in with yours: my Mesa M6 is in a class up from any of the D class heads I've had or tried. However a mate of mine owns and gigged both an M6 and a Berg B|Amp and he rates the B|Amp just as highly. That's a pretty good A/B comparison. I've heard clips of him playing his Berg rig with his band and he sounds great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan63 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, gobasserk said: Of course they do. Doesn't matter to me 🙂 I went to the "Musicstore" in Cologne willing to buy the (for me) best sounding amp three years ago. Not a joke ! I ended up with an Hartke LH1000. The Hartke stuff is in the same test room as the Glockenklang ... That nice, warm and NATURAL bass growl.... was only to be heard in analog. Gregor from Basstheworld would seem to agree, the last review of the cheap HarleyBenton amp he made that exact point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 There was a music shop nearby that had to close down last month. I was able to buy a new Markbass 210 Combo for 400 Euros. I loved the weight! Testest it with my Yamis... Disliked the sound, disconnectet the amp and played the cab with an Ashdown ABM600 and a Hartke and an old Warwick Profet 5.2. The difference was significant. The cab sounded better with all the not Markbass amps. Let's put it this way... I know how my basses sound because I am playing for example the 1000's for the last 20 years. Any digital amp sounds not like anaolog in an basicaly way. And I am not ok with the way digital amps change the sound of a bass in such a dramatic way. Others may be ok with that new sound, I want it like it always was 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Aidan63 said: Gregor from Basstheworld would seem to agree, the last review of the cheap HarleyBenton amp he made that exact point Well, I like his reviews (his pronunciation is weird ..) and I had to check what you ment...Found it... That's absolutely my opinion 😎😂 Go to 4:08 min basstheworld Edited May 2, 2021 by gobasserk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, gobasserk said: Same with neo speakers... and it is funny that they tell you that with the neo cabs you'd get exactly out of it what you put in... but played over a digital amp it is not the instrument ..it is an analog signal transfered into digital and put together again. And it does sound different. this is not denied by anyone... 😉 the venue's PA team is more than ok with you lugging in your old amp and 8*10... before taking the DI from your bass, sending to the digital desk through CAT5 cables and then sending it to a rack of class D amps powering Neo loaded arrays/self powered Neo loaded arrays.... Edited May 2, 2021 by LukeFRC And to keep it OT some of the Neo loaded class D speakers will be made by Yamaha... ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I am talking about my ears not the ones of the audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 *gently clears throat* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ricky Rioli said: *gently clears throat* Is that a 424 in tobacco? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linear Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Class BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, linear said: Class BB Very good! The odd digression, with the odd oblique reference to a BB (like how does a Yamaha BB bass sound like with a D class or class A/B amp when played through a YYZ pedal?), after 6,000 posts is a good thing to keep us all entertained. After all, how many times can we remind each other that a 1024 is more refined than a 424? And those of us who prefer a fine red to more plentiful plonk will prefer one over the other 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Al, even the google translator can't tell me, what you mean with the last sentence but it sounds good 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, gobasserk said: Of course they do. Doesn't matter to me 🙂 I went to the "Musicstore" in Cologne willing to buy the (for me) best sounding amp three years ago. Not a joke ! I ended up with an Hartke LH1000. The Hartke stuff is in the same test room as the Glockenklang ... That nice, warm and NATURAL bass growl.... was only to be heard in analog. LH1000 is a fantastic amp - I do sort of miss mine, but have found something which suits me even more - and it’s good old analogue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, gobasserk said: Al, even the google translator can't tell me, what you mean with the last sentence but it sounds good 😛 At the end of the day, if it sounds good that's all that matters! 😊👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 47 minutes ago, Al Krow said: And those of us who prefer a fine red to more plentiful plonk will prefer one over the other 😁 24 minutes ago, gobasserk said: Al, even the google translator can't tell me, what you mean with the last sentence but it sounds good 😛 A wine reference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Thanks, sometimes not beeing a native speaker in an English forum does suck 🙈☠️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, gobasserk said: Thanks, sometimes not beeing a native speaker in an English forum does suck 🙈☠️ You play "native" Yamaha BB bass and do great recordings just on your phone, which more than makes up for it! There is no more universal language, we can share, than music! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 @gobasserk, You're doing OK. When I was travelling I noticed that, no matter where in the world I was, most people could swear fluently in English... @Al Krow, I was watching some daytime telly a few years back with some English children (toddlers) playing with some Vietnamese children of the same age. All were getting on fantastically, laughing and playing. At the end, the interviewer asked one of the English children how she got on with the Vietnamese children when they didn't speak English to which she replied "...but she laughs in English". From the mouths of babes.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) OK, back to BB topic... Before the last layers of lacquer...the Yamaha Logo 🙂 Edited May 2, 2021 by gobasserk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, gobasserk said: OK, back to BB topic... Before the last layers of lacquer...the Yamaha Logo 🙂 Wow. Exactly what I’m doing (at some point) with the bb350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I might let go my CAR BB300 once the 1000 is ready.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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