krispn Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Al Krow said: I did think about white knobs. But the black work also well with the fretboard and pups, and it's a faff to remove and replace the knobs (unless your Andy T, in which case it's a doddle!). Don't you need a special tool to extract your knobs? (Ooh er... missus!) 😁 They push on/pull off. It’s as easy as changing a string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, krispn said: They push on/pull off. It’s as easy as changing a string. Ah, mine are as snug as a bug in a rug! (And tbh I'm very happy with them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Al Krow said: Ah, mine are as snug as a bug in a rug! (And tbh I'm very happy with them). If they’re resistant, there are about 4/5 easy methods rather than tools - but there are “knob pulling” tools 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Oooh, aaaah, 4 of the same thing…🤦🏻♂️😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 If you had to keep just one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, TheGreek said: If you had to keep just one.... Orange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Is the bridge pickup on the 424 properly noiseless, or do I just have am extremely well-shielded instrument? Searching around I can find a reference to a "noisy" bridge pickup on a 415 and to the 2024 blade pickup being "noiseless". Which doesn't get me very far. It's only just dawned on me that this is the only single coil pickup I've ever had any experience of – all the guitars and basses I played in my youth had humbuckers or splits – which has led me to be unappreciative of how quiet it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ricky Rioli said: Is the bridge pickup on the 424 properly noiseless, or do I just have am extremely well-shielded instrument? Searching around I can find a reference to a "noisy" bridge pickup on a 415 and to the 2024 blade pickup being "noiseless". Which doesn't get me very far. It's only just dawned on me that this is the only single coil pickup I've ever had any experience of – all the guitars and basses I played in my youth had humbuckers or splits – which has led me to be unappreciative of how quiet it is. I’ve not experienced much noise from the bridge unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) The bridge pup on my 1025 is definitely noisier than the P pup at the neck which is pretty much silent. But it's only ever been really noticeable if I'm standing close up to my rig. The flip side is that the bridge pup does have an "edge" from the additional harmonic complexity of the string vibrations closer to the bridge, which allows it to cut through in the mix really well, particularly on the very low notes on the low B strings. Edited July 31, 2021 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/guitars_basses/el_basses/bb/specs.html all listed as single coil ceramic across the board… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I found this BassChat thread linked to in a TalkBass thread.... Humming Yamaha BB424 ....seems I've just got lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Ricky Rioli said: I found this BassChat thread linked to in a TalkBass thread.... Humming Yamaha BB424 ....seems I've just got lucky My tinnitus basically makes my world have 60 Cycle hum…so, everything sounds “noiseless” to me 🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, AndyTravis said: My tinnitus basically makes my world have 60 Cycle hum…so, everything sounds “noiseless” to me 🥴 My tinnitus sounds like silvery cicadas, which just makes me feel like I'm perpetually on some lovely warm summer holiday and someone's about to pass me a mint julep. Some Mitteleuropean classical composer put his tinnitus into a movement of one of his string quartets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 14 hours ago, Al Krow said: Well I am now down from these 4 beauties (and a couple of fantastic 425s which came and went along the way), following the departure of my lovely NE2 into appreciative new hands today 😢 To this solitary, but very wonderful, beast! Which really says something about Yamaha’s manufacturing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I played some of the GuitarGuitar blow out BB's a few years back and the bridge pick up was marred by the 60cycle hum. Ed Friedland make similar comments on how the pick up had a noticable hum too in a review video but loved the bass regardless. But hey it's a single coil pick up so totally expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Al Krow said: The bridge pup on my 1025 is definitely noisier than the P pup at the neck which is pretty much silent. But it's only ever been really noticeable if I'm standing close up to my rig. The flip side is that the bridge pup does have an "edge" from the additional harmonic complexity of the string vibrations closer to the bridge, which allows it to cut through in the mix really well, particularly on the very low notes on the low B strings. Wouldn't that apply to any bridge single coil pick up by the nature of its position closer to the bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
such Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I've seen a claim on talkbass that the new BBs have a hum-cancelling J. Is it true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, krispn said: Wouldn't that apply to any bridge single coil pick up by the nature of its position closer to the bridge? Yup, completely agree. I guess the key point for me is the broader "tool kit" that the Yammy PJ format offers over a pure P bass. I find I'm using the solo bridge J quite a lot these days and really appreciate having that as an additional option. Edited July 31, 2021 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 On the 424 I had, I found either pup, selected individually, awful but were fine together. The 424 didn’t last long with me and unfortunately I sold the BB1600 too soon after. The 1600 was a far superior beast with no mud mush when selecting individual pups. But you all know what opinions are like … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, andy67 said: On the 424 I had, I found either pup, selected individually, awful but were fine together. The 424 didn’t last long with me and unfortunately I sold the BB1600 too soon after. The 1600 was a far superior beast with no mud mush when selecting individual pups. But you all know what opinions are like … A 1600 is definitely the only bb I’m after now - the 3000/neck through ones I’ve played haven’t knocked me out. I really like the 424 on both pickups or bridge only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 hours ago, AndyTravis said: My tinnitus basically makes my world have 60 Cycle hum…so, everything sounds “noiseless” to me 🥴 You would be ok in the US, but in the UK doesn't that give you a nasty 10Hz beat frequency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: A 1600 is definitely the only bb I’m after now - the 3000/neck through ones I’ve played haven’t knocked me out. I really like the 424 on both pickups or bridge only. I sold the 1600 on BC to an Irish fella who was collecting BBs, be interesting to see if the admins could track that sale down to ascertain if the fella is still a member or not. My feedback seems much less now than it used to be so, I can’t locate it there unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: You would be ok in the US, but in the UK doesn't that give you a nasty 10Hz beat frequency? How do you think he keeps time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 56 minutes ago, andy67 said: On the 424 I had, I found either pup, selected individually, awful but were fine together. The 424 didn’t last long with me and unfortunately I sold the BB1600 too soon after. The 1600 was a far superior beast with no mud mush when selecting individual pups. But you all know what opinions are like … Did you ever try a 1024? Key difference for me sound wise between the two is the harmonically richer / less "flat" pups on the 1024 vs the 424 - but they seem to get preferred in equal measure by different Yammy owners so "better" is definitely in the ear of the beholder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Al Krow said: Did you ever try a 1024? Key difference for me sound wise between the two is the harmonically richer / less "flat" pups on the 1024 vs the 424 - but they seem to get preferred in equal measure by different Yammy owners so "better" is definitely in the ear of the beholder. I haven't as yet but very interested. I like the look, layout and YouTube vids lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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