Saved Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) Its a litle bit complicated. Years ago,i was looking for the perfect sounding B bass (i mean the bass with clear and strong B string) I discovered that i need longer scale. Then i build my first bass.A 40" fretless 6-string. Then i realize that fretless basses are nice (i already had a 34" fretless) but they need to much attention when you playing.So, i decide to build a freted 40" scale. I aslo always wanted a p-bass with mudbucker pickup. The problem isthere is no mudbucker for 5-strings.So i build this p-bass tuned F#,B,E,A. It also has a piezo bridge. Then i saw that D and G strings are more useful than F#,but for me B is even more useful than D and G. So i decide to build a 5-string. But,because building basses is a never ending circle,and i knew after this i wanted to build a multiscale. Now.I find playing my 40" easy. So the multiscale will be 43-40" but then (2yearsago)people saying that kalium will build 43-40" basses. I dont wanted people to say that i build this scale because of kalium. I decide to go 34"+5 frets. This is 44.75 scale length.But i weanted it multiscale,so 48-45 will be fine.Neil from newtone strings is winding my 40" strings.I asked him how much is the longest he could wind and said 50". That means that i need to go headless if i go so big scale,and i need it torzal to be playable easy. The blanks i had (maple and wenge) was 135cm. So i did it 47-44. Now,the .110 E string,will be tuned as B because the extra 5 frets of lenght. So,a thiner,longer,more flexible B string will sound beter. Thats the story behind the bass of navarone.. Edit.I found a luthier who builds pianos (upright and grand pianos) He also winds strings,so maybe one day i will build an EUB longer than 50" just for the joy of the build Edited September 9, 2018 by Saved 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) It's getting exiting now. Newtone are local to me. He's done me a set of five DBEs that I could get nowhere else. Yay! Edited September 9, 2018 by SpondonBassed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 Neil is a greate guy.I would like to met him in person.We are talking only through e-mails.Always here to try new things,or to help me find the corect gauge for the pitch i want.First time he build me a 40" .255 string for my fretless bass back in the 2015 and maybe earlier. It was his first thick and long string.He send it to me in greece free of charge. I never had problem with his strings,his suport and his service. I am glad to see him building strings for dingwhalls.He has very big experience and knowledge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 No need to say,if there wasn't Neil,there wouldn't be navarone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Pioneering stuff! Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyctes Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) Wow. I'm stunned all over again every time I look at this. How thick will the neck be at the nut, front to back, if I may ask? Edited September 9, 2018 by alyctes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 The neck is pretty thick. Is 29mm all the way,because of 2 reasons. 1.the fretboatd is 3ply wenge/maple/wenge 9mm when all the basses have 4mm fretboatd 2.if i go for thiner,i am gonna hit the 8mm carbon rods. So,9+8=17mm thick only for these two things,when there is basses with 19-20mm thick neck.. If you calculate the sharp angles of endurneck design,there is no way to go for thiner neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Saved said: If you calculate the sharp angles of endurneck design,there is no way to go for thiner neck I seem to recall on one of the endurneck video clips that a thicker neck was, dare I say it, good for metal. Joking aside, it seems to suit the more technical players because of the flats on the back of the neck. Anyone looking for a Jazz neck will be disappointed. This bass will inspire a LOT of original thinking and some new ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 The truth is,i like "baseball bat" thick necks.And bexause i like playibg slow groove songs,this is not a problem for me.But i belive that thiner neck are better for walking bass playing style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Saved said: The truth is,i like "baseball bat" thick necks.And bexause i like playibg slow groove songs,this is not a problem for me.But i belive that thiner neck are better for walking bass playing style Perhaps. No matter what the neck is like, my walking bassline always limps. Edited September 10, 2018 by SpondonBassed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) ITS PAINTED...not black..🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Edited September 20, 2018 by Saved edit to add more pics 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 This is where it all starts to make sense. You must have been wanting to see this image from your thoughts become real for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottomofthebarrel Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I love this thread!❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I agree with @SpondonBassed (there's a first time for everything!) - it all makes sense now. That is a great look 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 Next steps Do the electronics, Install strings, Pluck strings, Booooom!!!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 If all goes well, I'd advise anyone reading this to stand in a doorway or to sit beneath a sturdy table as there is likely to be a significant seismic event when this instrument goes off! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 Its ready,and it sings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottomofthebarrel Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Wow! Congratulations on a fine build, it looks exceptional and probably sounds that way too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 It sound very clear with great harmonics content in every note. I have to go to a recording studio to record some samples so you can hear it.I have an audio interface,but every time i try to rec a song,it took me hours with awful results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blablas Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Very nice build, in the beginning it was hard to understand where you were going with this one due to all weird shapes and unorthodox constructions going on but the end result makes everything clear. Well done! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 In the begining,even i was not sure what i am doing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Hold on, back up a pic or two - does Doc Emmett Brown know you nicked his speaker cab?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I especially like your metalwork Saved. The instrument as a whole looks great! I'd love to see a clip of it on YT or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 I am gonna make a few videos to se it in action 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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