No. 8 Wire Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Having a bit of a Thin Lizzy / Gary Moore moment last night on youtube. This video brought to mind all the complaints we have on here about the beeb not doing bass on live recordings. Well, they used to know how to do it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9xyWxXyOOg&list=FLpYWcKxDi6vFvWjYQk73bjw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 And here was me getting all excited about the return of BigBeefChief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I had a mate, back in the early 70s who was a sound guy for the BBC. He often moaned about the quality of sound reproduction in a normal TV, as the quality of the stuff they were required to produce was pristine, as the job demanded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I've been doing a bit of archive work for a band that were on telly a fair bit in the 70s, and the broadcast mixes are - without exception - fantastic. Even the lower-budget regional stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 the bass is very 'knocky' but at least you can hear it, bass is very unfashionable at the minute, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 That's because back in the day all the BBC programmes were made by the BBC and used their own in-house trained engineers. These days nearly everything is made by independent production companies. The BBC no longer does training for the technical jobs and those who did receive BBC training are now in the minority. There is still the excellent Tonmeister course at the University of Surrey, but places are limited and programmes are made to a budget, which means the production companies can't always afford the best technical people. Also decisions on sound are being made by programme producers and others with no real understanding of what is required to deliver the best possible sound to the majority of viewers. Hence the recent spate of complaints about programmes where the dialogue is almost inaudible over the foley sounds and BGM. I'm sure it sounded great in the editing suite, but that's not how the majority of viewers watch the finish programme. Also in the past very few people used anything other than the TV's in-build (tiny) speaker so programmes had to be mixed to take this into account. Nowadays the assumption seems to be that viewers have fancy surround-sound systems to go with that huge flat-screen TV, when IME that is most definitely not the case and the small speakers on modern screens don't even have the benefit of a large "enclosure" to help them deliver a decent sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Having just viewed that clip, it has to be said that the Beeb clearly did NOT do rhythm guitar ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No. 8 Wire Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1491395969' post='3272682'] Having just viewed that clip, it has to be said that the Beeb clearly did NOT do rhythm guitar ... [/quote] Maybe Phil decided where the mics went that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 FM still does bass. DAB loses a lot of the bottom octave due to lousy bandwidth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 [quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1491410159' post='3272840'] FM still does bass. DAB loses a lot of the bottom octave due to lousy bandwidth. [/quote]can't really agree with that, I listen to Gold Radio in the car and the bass cuts through better than any station I listen too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LITTLEWING Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 [quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1491410159' post='3272840'] FM still does bass. DAB loses a lot of the bottom octave due to lousy bandwidth. [/quote]Listen to Radio X on DAB. Nice and bassy!! Damn fine toons too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivansc Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 But my LORD that bass is out of tune, or Phil is flubbing a lot..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 the opposite is also true when they have presumed that everyone is using small speakers and they haven't put a HPF or whatever on it and mid programme our sub starts going low rumbley for no reason whatsoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 The coolest bass player of all time, Garys got a broken string and cozy on drums, utter classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No. 8 Wire Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) [quote name='skidder652003' timestamp='1491546282' post='3273773'] The coolest bass player of all time, Garys got a broken string and cozy on drums, utter classic. [/quote] Amazing players. This is probably old news, but I didn't realise this concert was available on youtube. Gary Moore just incredible. This just blows me away. The best Thin Lizzy cover band ever: [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHoxD0y97Bo&t=1084s"]http://www.youtube....D0y97Bo&t=1084s[/url] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wADza29R-M4"]http://www.youtube....h?v=wADza29R-M4[/url] Edited April 7, 2017 by No. 8 Wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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