gs_triumph Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) Guys, Looking for some guidance. I bought a used RH750 that came with the RS4 footswitch but only a two metre cable. I ordered one of these from Amazon Designacable 5 m Belden Midi Lead Cable - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01F57I298/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_G4p7yb1B4YK4A It arrived today but it doesn't work. Is it the wrong cable? (Wired incorrectly?) Or is it faulty? The description stated this if it helps - Quote "The plugs are metal REAN 5 pin dins, male to male, wired PIN 2 to 2, PIN 4 to 4 and PIN 5 to 5." Can you recommend a cable of at least 5m that will work? (Preferably from Amazon because ideally I need it tomorrow and i have prime) Cheers, G. Edited April 11, 2017 by gs_triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs_triumph Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 bit more digging around... I guess I need a 5 pin that's actually wired as a 5 pin to provide phantom power? Didn't realise there were two different types. TC website says 'standard' midi cable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I assume you mean the RC4 foot switch, [url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rc4-remote/"]like this[/url]? [size=4] [/size] The cable that came with mine (I bought it new a few years ago) was an 8 pin midi cable and was around 5 meters long. It was a bit flimsy feeling and I was concerned about how long it would last. It was replaced by a sturdier 8 pin one that our keyboard player had going spare. But o[size=4]bviously that's no real help to you at the minute![/size] [size=4]Amazon have a no quibble returns policy. I'd send yours back and order an 8 pin midi cable to replace it. [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 [quote name='Osiris' timestamp='1492019865' post='3277287'] I assume you mean the RC4 foot switch, [url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rc4-remote/"]like this[/url]? The cable that came with mine (I bought it new a few years ago) was an 8 pin midi cable and was around 5 meters long. It was a bit flimsy feeling and I was concerned about how long it would last. It was replaced by a sturdier 8 pin one that our keyboard player had going spare. But obviously that's no real help to you at the minute! Amazon have a no quibble returns policy. I'd send yours back and order an 8 pin midi cable to replace it. [/quote] Are you sure you meant 8-pin? Looking at the specification and the photos of the RH750 on the TC Electronic web it is most definitely a 180° 5-pin DIN connector on the amp. And to be fair to TC Electronic it doesn't say MIDI anywhere in their on-line specifications or description for the connector. The problem haas arisen because the original MIDI specification was never supposed to use DIN plugs as their connector standard, but 3-pin XLRs, and that the DIN option was an alternative to be used in low-cost cases only. Of course everyone went and used the DIN option rather than the far more professional XLR one, and the 5-pin connector was used because it was the most common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Maybe I'm mistaken? [size=4]Unfortunately I no longer have the amp, footswitch or cables to double check.[/size] [size=4] [/size][size=4]That being the case it might be wise to treat my previous post with a pinch of salt [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs_triumph Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 It's definitely a 5 pin on mine. TC says standard midi here https://tcelectronic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/228343988-RC4-What-kind-of-cable- I've ordered one from designacable, 5 pin, wired for phantom power. Hopefully that'll do the trick. Other cable going back to amazon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs_triumph Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 [quote name='Osiris' timestamp='1492019865' post='3277287'] I assume you mean the RC4 foot switch, [url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rc4-remote/"]like this[/url]? [size=4] [/size] [/size] [/quote] Yes... RC4 😚 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 [quote name='gs_triumph' timestamp='1492114626' post='3278134'] It's definitely a 5 pin on mine. TC says standard midi here [url="https://tcelectronic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/228343988-RC4-What-kind-of-cable-"]https://tcelectronic...-kind-of-cable-[/url] [/quote] Then they are wrong. The MIDI standard only requires pins 2 (the middle one), 4 and 5 the ones immediately to the left and right of pin 2 to be connected. Most good-quality MIDI cables only connect those pins as it allows a far more chunky 2-conductor and screen cable to be used. Can you power the footswitch with a separate PSU? That way it would probably work with a 3-wire MIDI cable. Peavey did something similar in the 90s with their foot switches which would work as standard MIDI patch select pedal using a MIDI cable and an external PSU, but connected to Peavey gear with a 7-way cable, it was self-powered and you got access to a lot more functions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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