TC Electronic RS4 footswitch midi cable

[gs_triumph]

Guys,
Looking for some guidance.

I bought a used RH750 that came with the RS4 footswitch but only a two metre cable.

I ordered one of these from Amazon Designacable 5 m Belden Midi Lead Cable - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01F57I298/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_G4p7yb1B4YK4A
It arrived today but it doesn't work.

Is it the wrong cable? (Wired incorrectly?) Or is it faulty?

The description stated this if it helps -

Quote "The plugs are metal REAN 5 pin dins, male to male, wired PIN 2 to 2, PIN 4 to 4 and PIN 5 to 5."

Can you recommend a cable of at least 5m that will work? (Preferably from Amazon because ideally I need it tomorrow and i have prime)

Cheers,

G.

Edited April 11, 2017 by gs_triumph

[gs_triumph]

bit more digging around... I guess I need a 5 pin that's actually wired as a 5 pin to provide phantom power?

Didn't realise there were two different types.

TC website says 'standard' midi cable

[Osiris]

I assume you mean the RC4 foot switch, [url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rc4-remote/"]like this[/url]? [size=4] [/size]

The cable that came with mine (I bought it new a few years ago) was an 8 pin midi cable and was around 5 meters long. It was a bit flimsy feeling and I was concerned about how long it would last. It was replaced by a sturdier 8 pin one that our keyboard player had going spare. But o[size=4]bviously that's no real help to you at the minute![/size]

[size=4]Amazon have a no quibble returns policy. I'd send yours back and order an 8 pin midi cable to replace it. [/size]

[BigRedX]

[quote name='Osiris' timestamp='1492019865' post='3277287']
I assume you mean the RC4 foot switch, [url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rc4-remote/"]like this[/url]?

The cable that came with mine (I bought it new a few years ago) was an 8 pin midi cable and was around 5 meters long. It was a bit flimsy feeling and I was concerned about how long it would last. It was replaced by a sturdier 8 pin one that our keyboard player had going spare. But obviously that's no real help to you at the minute!

Amazon have a no quibble returns policy. I'd send yours back and order an 8 pin midi cable to replace it.
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Are you sure you meant 8-pin? Looking at the specification and the photos of the RH750 on the TC Electronic web it is most definitely a 180° 5-pin DIN connector on the amp.

And to be fair to TC Electronic it doesn't say MIDI anywhere in their on-line specifications or description for the connector.

The problem haas arisen because the original MIDI specification was never supposed to use DIN plugs as their connector standard, but 3-pin XLRs, and that the DIN option was an alternative to be used in low-cost cases only. Of course everyone went and used the DIN option rather than the far more professional XLR one, and the 5-pin connector was used because it was the most common.

[Osiris]

Maybe I'm mistaken? [size=4]Unfortunately I no longer have the amp, footswitch or cables to double check.[/size]
[size=4] [/size][size=4]That being the case it might be wise to treat my previous post with a pinch of salt [/size]

[gs_triumph]

It's definitely a 5 pin on mine.

TC says standard midi here https://tcelectronic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/228343988-RC4-What-kind-of-cable-

I've ordered one from designacable, 5 pin, wired for phantom power. Hopefully that'll do the trick.

Other cable going back to amazon

[gs_triumph]

[quote name='Osiris' timestamp='1492019865' post='3277287']
I assume you mean the RC4 foot switch, [url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rc4-remote/"]like this[/url]? [size=4] [/size] [/size]
[/quote]

Yes... RC4 😚

[BigRedX]

[quote name='gs_triumph' timestamp='1492114626' post='3278134']
It's definitely a 5 pin on mine.

TC says standard midi here [url="https://tcelectronic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/228343988-RC4-What-kind-of-cable-"]https://tcelectronic...-kind-of-cable-[/url]
[/quote]

Then they are wrong. The MIDI standard only requires pins 2 (the middle one), 4 and 5 the ones immediately to the left and right of pin 2 to be connected.

Most good-quality MIDI cables only connect those pins as it allows a far more chunky 2-conductor and screen cable to be used.

Can you power the footswitch with a separate PSU? That way it would probably work with a 3-wire MIDI cable. Peavey did something similar in the 90s with their foot switches which would work as standard MIDI patch select pedal using a MIDI cable and an external PSU, but connected to Peavey gear with a 7-way cable, it was self-powered and you got access to a lot more functions.