Sonic_Groove Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 [quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1501509318' post='3345141'] Yet another delay: [size=3][color=#1F497D]Hello,[/color][/size] [size=3][color=#1F497D]Thank you for your email and interest in the new TRACE ELLIOT – ELF.[/color][/size] [size=3][color=#1F497D]The first UK shipment of TE ELF’s are on their way and expected to arrive at the very end of August. All being well the ELF will be available from Musial retailers by Mid-September.[/color][/size] [size=3][color=#1F497D]Kind regards[/color][/size] [size=3][b][color=#1F497D][size=3]Gary Tichopad[/size][/color][/b][/size] [size=3][b][color=#1F497D][size=3]Barnes and Mullins Ltd,[/size][/color][/b][/size] [size=3][b][color=#1F497D][size=3]Associate Director - Purchasing[/size][/color][/b] [color=#1F497D][size=3]Unit 14, Mile Oak Ind Estate[b], [/b]Oswestry[b], [/b]Shropshire[b], [/b]SY10 8GA, United Kingdom[/size][/color][/size] [/quote] I would tell them to go swivel and get something else!! B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 In for a penny... I've been waiting this long, may as well wait another 2 weeks. Bloody annoying though - not B&M's fault - clearly down to Peavey/ Trace Elliot US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fftc Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 What's the chances of it not being around before the next NAMM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Many a true word spoken in jest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinebass Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Whilst this thread is kind of amusing in a car crash "how long before Mick asks for a refund whilst TE string him and ever other person along who's pre-ordered one" kind of way, it is intensely unamusing that after all this stress, hardship and chasing them to the gates of Hades for a delivery date, the amp (if it ever arrives) will probably be an underpowered matchbox gimmick only capable of holding it's own against a drummer with brushes. I can't see how a 200w class D amp will cut it in any loud situation at all. Were it 1000w I'd be saying it was genius, but not for 200w. I hope it doesn't go this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 [quote name='Wolverinebass' timestamp='1501522247' post='3345261'] Whilst this thread is kind of amusing in a car crash "how long before Mick asks for a refund whilst TE string him and ever other person along who's pre-ordered one" kind of way, it is intensely unamusing that after all this stress, hardship and chasing them to the gates of Hades for a delivery date, the amp (if it ever arrives) will probably be an underpowered matchbox gimmick only capable of holding it's own against a drummer with brushes. I can't see how a 200w class D amp will cut it in any loud situation at all. Were it 1000w I'd be saying it was genius, but not for 200w. I hope it doesn't go this way. [/quote] :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumimajava Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I know this is of little help to everyone back in the UK, but they've been available off-the-shelf in Japan for the past few weeks. I did try playing through one at Ikebe two weeks ago, but given that my experience of amps is thoroughly limited, I don't know what sort of feedback would be useful. TE doesn't seem to have a big following over here - the guy was surprised that I was at all interested in the amp. They had it driving a VanDerKley 210, and it seemed to do allright; got a bit hot in the process, but that's running at 100v, and it is summer here. The other amp they had next to the VDK cab was a Tecamp Puma 500, but size & price-wise not really a direct competitor. EQ's flat, the TE sounded brighter than the Tecamp, but I didn't spend much time playing with the EQ settings to get a broader picture. Anyways - the Elfs (elves?) are around, and I hope will be arriving in the UK soon. The one I saw didn't have a variable voltage selector, so sadly ordering one from over here is not an option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I've seen online video reviews from users, so they are out in the wild. It's certainly extremely portable and I've always liked the bright punchy Trace tone, but I think they should have gone with a 500W unit and kept it around £350... I suspect a higher wattage version is in development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 [quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1493307961' post='3287367'] I tried the new TE Elf at the LBGS and though I wasn't given a great deal of time to give it a thorough going over I was sufficiently impressed to place an order with Bass Direct after the Barnes & Mullins rep, Mark Hedge, advised they were due to arrive in the UK "[i]at the end of March, if not, then end of April." [/i] [/quote] So, that would be a Class D, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted August 2, 2017 Author Share Posted August 2, 2017 Ironic? I could order one on ebay, include P&P, it would be marginally more expensive (by less than a pound) and it would probably arrive before the one I've had on order since March. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122620375642?_trksid=p999999.c100636.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160602105936%26meid%3Da0b103c526d249f49644481d859ab5f1%26pid%3D100636%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D172795549006&ul_noapp=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 [quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1501707362' post='3346844'] Ironic? I could order one on ebay, include P&P, it would be marginally more expensive (by less than a pound) and it would probably arrive before the one I've had on order since March. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122620375642?_trksid=p999999.c100636.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160602105936%26meid%3Da0b103c526d249f49644481d859ab5f1%26pid%3D100636%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D172795549006&ul_noapp=true [/quote] And you get the carry bag. When I asked BD they said their price didn't include a bag 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 What type of power supply does it have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 [quote name='Deedee' timestamp='1501707588' post='3346847'] And you get the carry bag. When I asked BD they said their price didn't include a bag 😮 [/quote] That's a bit daft given it's in the box in which the amp will be delivered!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1501707634' post='3346849'] What type of power supply does it have? [/quote] It's got to be SMPS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 [quote name='Merton' timestamp='1501709450' post='3346867'] That's a bit daft given it's in the box in which the amp will be delivered!! [/quote] That's what I thought, but back in Feb/March when I placed my order (before later getting a refund) I specifically asked if it came with the bag and was told no. To be fair, they may not have been in possession of the full back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) [quote name='Merton' timestamp='1501709482' post='3346869'] It's got to be SMPS? [/quote] I'm talking about the amp side of it, does it have an external transformer like a lap top or a conventional 'kettle' plug and if so does it have voltage switching? How come Genz Benz managed auto voltage switching over ten years ago yet it's not found very often on new amps? Edited August 3, 2017 by stingrayPete1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) A minute or so with Google reveals that it does have a standard IEC mains connector and switch mode PS. However the US version also has 120V 60Hz printed on the back panel, so there must be some differences to the PSU between this and the 240V version - even if it is only the value of the non-accessible mains fuse. Edited August 3, 2017 by BigRedX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1501743978' post='3346969'] A minute or so with Google reveals that it does have a standard IEC mains connector and switch mode PS. However the US version also has 120V 60Hz printed on the back panel, so there must be some differences to the PSU between this and the 240V version - even if it is only the value of the non-accessible mains fuse. [/quote] Unless the delay for the U.K. Models is purely down to printing 230VAC on the back of a batch haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1501743284' post='3346962'] I'm talking about the amp side of it, does it have an external transformer like a lap top or a conventional 'kettle' plug and if so does it have voltage switching? How come Genz Benz managed auto voltage switching over ten years ago yet it's not found very often on new amps? [/quote] Yup and that's what I was referring to - BigRedX has explained it better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) A perfect little amp for touring musicians then as long as they don't tour too far! Edited August 3, 2017 by stingrayPete1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.genzbenz.com/img/manuals/gb/SHUTTLE3_manual.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjQqeOU3brVAhUKYlAKHfGhCC0QFggkMAA&usg=AFQjCNHIroLrj94Gvt_vJtMDeA4ZK4g40g So Genz Benz bought out a 300 shuttle nearly ten years ago that's a similar size but could be used worldwide without even a switch to move across,progress eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) We'll have to see when actual units arrive in this country, but the single voltage could be down to something as simple as the fact that there's no room for a back panel mains fuse holder, so it isn't possible for the user to change the fuse to one of the appropriate rating for their country of residence without opening it up and voiding the warranty. Edited August 3, 2017 by BigRedX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic_Groove Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) [quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1501707362' post='3346844'] Ironic? I could order one on ebay, include P&P, it would be marginally more expensive (by less than a pound) and it would probably arrive before the one I've had on order since March. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122620375642?_trksid=p999999.c100636.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160602105936%26meid%3Da0b103c526d249f49644481d859ab5f1%26pid%3D100636%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D172795549006&ul_noapp=true"]http://www.ebay.co.u...6&ul_noapp=true[/url] [/quote] There would be no warranty on it though from US (I've been there and been burnt!!!) Edited August 3, 2017 by Sonic_Groove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 So I'm sitting here with Issue 147 of BGM (allegedly the September issue, but I can't help noticing that there's more than two weeks of August rain left) and the full page advert inside the front cover states that the Elf is Available from all good music stores. It doesn't actually say "all good music stores in the USA" so I guess you have to take that as being implied. The power supply is not mentioned. These are not the amps you seek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 On the Talkbass thread there is confirmation the power supply is universal, it's clearly just the label which is holding this up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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