Jus Lukin Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) - Edited February 28, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1494503146' post='3296523'] Having a lifelong developmental/neurological condition, being referred to as "retarded", "backward" "wrong in the head" & other lovely, confidence building terms all through my life by family, teachers & people I worked with, nearly being institutionalised by my mother when I was a child because there was "something wrong with me" - Those good enough for ya? Probably not. [/quote] I'm sorry to hear about it. However, it isn't reasonable to expect (and certainly not to demand) that the rest of the world walks round you on tiptoe because some people have been unkind to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 [quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1494517865' post='3296693'] I'm sorry to hear about it. However, it isn't reasonable to expect (and certainly not to demand) that the rest of the world walks round you on tiptoe because some people have been unkind to you. [/quote] That's not what I expect or demand at all. All I am saying is that there are many people out there who for very genuine reasons are fully justified in being angry or offended by people using demeaning terminology. The fact that people don't seem to accept this, and also seem to be annoyed by the fact that people find it offensive or insulting, is what I find astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbandit599 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Having played in a few bands with two lead guitarists - luckily none being the aforementioned "guitards" (joke wearing a bit thin imho) - I can tell you that what really winds them up is if you refer to the one who happens to be playing rhythm as playing 'spare guitar'. That really gets 'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 [quote name='lowhand_mike' timestamp='1494492302' post='3296399'] would someone who works in the cells at a police station be a custard then? [/quote] Quite possibly. In fact, that reminds me of that American geezer who made Strat guitars. If he had worn woman's clothing in his spare time, would he have been classed as a Leotard ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethFlatlands Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 [quote name='PaulGibsonBass' timestamp='1494452403' post='3296201'] I have no time for political correctness in it's extremes, but my opinion is that using this phrase isn't acceptable. Am I offended by it? Not really, but I feel that corrupting a word that descibes mental handicaps or learning difficulties to use as a 'humorous' but ultimately derogatory term is out of order, and no more acceptable than calling someone 'spazz', or some other unintentionally cruel playground jibe. I'm sure nobody means to cause offence, but all the same I'm uncomfortable with it. [/quote] This is my take on it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 [quote name='PaulGibsonBass' timestamp='1494452403' post='3296201'] I have no time for political correctness in it's extremes, but my opinion is that using this phrase isn't acceptable. Am I offended by it? Not really, but I feel that corrupting a word that descibes mental handicaps or learning difficulties to use as a 'humorous' but ultimately derogatory term is out of order, and no more acceptable than calling someone 'spazz', or some other unintentionally cruel playground jibe. I'm sure nobody means to cause offence, but all the same I'm uncomfortable with it. [/quote] I agree with everything you say, except that I do honestly think plenty of people enjoy nothing more than deliberately causing offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I don't use the term but I always thought the tard part meant turd so if it means retard I get why it upset some people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keving Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I think if used to refer to all guitarists then it is disrespectful at the least, although I've always thought it referred to the specific type of guitarist that has no awareness of the rest of the band. What I find much more offensive is the ginger bashing that seems so prevelant these days. It's almost as if people have finally accepted that it is wrong to abuse people based on the colour of their skin so have moved on to the colour of their hair. Where next, the colour of their eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 What's wrong with deliberately offending SJW's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 [quote name='keving' timestamp='1494528666' post='3296801'] I think if used to refer to all guitarists then it is disrespectful at the least, although I've always thought it referred to the specific type of guitarist that has no awareness of the rest of the band. What I find much more offensive is the ginger bashing that seems so prevelant these days. It's almost as if people have finally accepted that it is wrong to abuse people based on the colour of their skin so have moved on to the colour of their hair. Where next, the colour of their eyes? [/quote] It's the only thing we've got left! Chin up rusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastodon2 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I'm a guitarist of 15 years, now playing bass. Not at all offended by any jibes, life is too short and it's mostly in good humour, so carry on an two fingers up to anyone who gets their feelings hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yank Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 When I was young, there were jokes about the Polish, referred to as "Polacks", inferring that they were stupid. Years later they morphed into hair color jokes, referred to as "blonds", usually of the female persuation. Why were there no "Brit" jokes on this side of the pond? Sometimes you folks are so funny. I know in WW2 you had plenty of "Yank" jokes. "Over paid, over sexed and over here". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Browning Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 We are called 'rosbifs' in France and I dare say there are other equivalents in other countries. I don't have any problem with anybody referring to me as anything, frankly. Odd that I never thought of Polack as anything other than a similar term (to rosbif) and wasn't derogatory in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) Some of us (not all, but some...) have grown up somewhat since those idyllic times, and have developed a little sensibility about the feelings of others. There remain certain vestiges of that dark, uncouth era, but, in general, humour has moved on. Maybe there's a certain staleness to hearing those 'blonde' jokes [i]et al[/i]..? One would hope so. Edited May 14, 2017 by Dad3353 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 [quote name='Yank' timestamp='1494756245' post='3298290'] When I was young, there were jokes about the Polish, referred to as "Polacks", inferring that they were stupid. Years later they morphed into hair color jokes, referred to as "blonds", usually of the female persuation. [b]Why were there no "Brit" jokes on this side of the pond? [/b] Sometimes you folks are so funny. I know in WW2 you had plenty of "Yank" jokes. "Over paid, over sexed and over here". [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 [quote name='Yank' timestamp='1494756245' post='3298290'] When I was young, there were jokes about the Polish, referred to as "Polacks", inferring that they were stupid. Years later they morphed into hair color jokes, referred to as "blonds", usually of the female persuation. Why were there no "Brit" jokes on this side of the pond? Sometimes you folks are so funny. I know in WW2 you had plenty of "Yank" jokes. "Over paid, over sexed and over here". [/quote] Sorry about that. I'll see if we can have some sent over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kodiakblair Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Dad3353 "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]in general, humour has moved on.". Have you watch much Danish comedy? Everybody is a target and it's as near the knuckle as can be.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Funny as hell too [/font][/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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