SICbass Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Hi all, can anyone help me identify this bass model please. I know it's a nanyo sgc, but what's the model number? The serial number is 883373. Unfortunately there's no model number on the rear side of the control cavity cover. I've pictured the control cavity, however, matters are further compicated because the previous owner has fitted Glockenklang electronics. Plus the knobs aren't on because the Nanyo knobs don't fit the Glockenklang pots, doh! I do have all of these seperately though, should this help clear identification. Thanks for any help, Paul. Edited May 17, 2017 by SICbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 It looks very similar to the SB425 5string that I used to own, which I think Skezza still has. I'd say an SB420 from 1988, first two digits of serial number is the year. Pickups may have been changed too. They should have SGC in gold on them, can't tell from the pics if it's there, worn off, or not present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 310 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICbass Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 Thanks for your help guys. I tried looking at Happy Jack's thread, but wasn't really any the wiser. Everyone there was already a level above me, throwing around serial numbers. My (very) uneducated guess was a 310, but I don't know what the criteria for the model numbers is, pup-combination? what woods used? which manufacturer? I've taken a closer look and the pups appear to be blank rather than the SGC logo scratched off. I could take the pups off and look at the back, I suppose. I'm just a bit of a chicken about taking stuff off and relying on my ability to get it back on. Cheers, Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I believe that this is one of the later models - possibly a 100 - built after BC were first taken over. The bridge on this is the lower mass Fender style bridge rather than the well constructed high mass bridge fitted to the early models. The pre-amps are different too. I have two of these - a fretted and a fretless - theirs very little difference in the tone and playability of these versus the early ones bearing the SB3/4/5 model nos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICbass Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 [quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1495106886' post='3301296'] I believe that this is one of the later models - possibly a 100 - built after BC were first taken over. The bridge on this is the lower mass Fender style bridge rather than the well constructed high mass bridge fitted to the early models. The pre-amps are different too. I have two of these - a fretted and a fretless - theirs very little difference in the tone and playability of these versus the early ones bearing the SB3/4/5 model nos. [/quote] Thanks TheGreek. Forgive me being obtuse, would that make it an SB100 then? Or SB301 or SB310? I really don't get the model naming system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) [quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1495106886' post='3301296'] I believe that this is one of the later models - possibly a 100 - built after BC were first taken over. [/quote] I disagree. The serial number clearly dates it to 1988. It's not an SB100. There of some pictures of my old red one in psychoandy's for-sale thread. Someone did a fair bit of research and identified the 5 as a 400 series. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/141457-sgc-nanyo-bass-collection-5-string-sold/page__p__1273893__fromsearch__1#entry1273893"]http://basschat.co.u..._1#entry1273893[/url] The control plate is identical, down to the funny 'Made In Japan' sticker and the two additional screw holes in the middle of the plate, which are very unusual. The finish on the body is translucent and looks to be Sen. The fingerboard is ebony. These are all characteristics of the 320 and 400 series. The 300 series and the 100s usually had rosewood fingerboards and solid body finishes. I can't tell what kind of bridge is on SICbass's from the photos, It probably also has a brass nut. In the other respects it looks similar. Edit: I've also noticed that the difference between the two serial numbers is 17, so I'd guess they were made very close together. Edited May 18, 2017 by pete.young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBunny Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 [quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1495110595' post='3301349'] I disagree. The serial number clearly dates it to 1988. It's not an SB100. [/quote] Me too. When Nanyo was resurrected after they stopped trading the production moved to, I believe, Korea. I have one of these basses and 2 MIJ ones. The Korean one has a high mass bridge, both MIJ ones have BBOT. The control cavity cover on the Korean ones have the holes in a different place to the Jap ones as well. Also as Pete points out it is a 1988 serial number and MIJ. When I removed the neck of one of mine, it had "4 series" written in the neck pocket, so maybe that is the answer, assuming you are happy to detach the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICbass Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 [quote name='BassBunny' timestamp='1495114387' post='3301381'] Me too. When Nanyo was resurrected after they stopped trading the production moved to, I believe, Korea. I have one of these basses and 2 MIJ ones. The Korean one has a high mass bridge, both MIJ ones have BBOT. The control cavity cover on the Korean ones have the holes in a different place to the Jap ones as well. Also as Pete points out it is a 1988 serial number and MIJ. When I removed the neck of one of mine, it had "4 series" written in the neck pocket, so maybe that is the answer, assuming you are happy to detach the neck. [/quote] Ooh, I'm a bit of a wuss about removing necks and suchlike. I can do some close-ups of the bridge, nut and hardware if that would help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICbass Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 [quote name='BassBunny' timestamp='1495114387' post='3301381'] Me too. When Nanyo was resurrected after they stopped trading the production moved to, I believe, Korea. I have one of these basses and 2 MIJ ones. The Korean one has a high mass bridge, both MIJ ones have BBOT. The control cavity cover on the Korean ones have the holes in a different place to the Jap ones as well. Also as Pete points out it is a 1988 serial number and MIJ. When I removed the neck of one of mine, it had "4 series" written in the neck pocket, so maybe that is the answer, assuming you are happy to detach the neck. [/quote] Ooh, I'm a bit of a wuss about removing necks and suchlike. I can do some close-ups of the bridge, nut and hardware if that would help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBunny Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Won't help really as Nanyo fitted Gotoh hardware on all their basses. The difference in the model numbers appear to be if it is Active/Passive and the wood used in the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I had a trans green 320 the 20 bit would have added gold hardware to it so it won't be a 420, more likely a 410 but I'm not sure what the first number relates to? Brilliant bass, I'm not sure who has it now and the serial number rubbed off as it's just a sticker and I played it a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basskleftiko Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Hi, A fretless Nanyo estimated by the seller to be a 1988 is on its way to me and I've just registered as had no idea about this bass collection till I stumbled across this site in what appears to have been a pleasing twist of fate. It's the serial number sticker "27350 Japan" that's interesting as it conflicts with the theory of the 6 digit format and the first two numbers representing the year. Now I've chucked that in there, I would love to hear any of your thoughts as to its history while I wait like a kid in a toy shop for my bass to be delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Well my first thought is that neither the serial number sticker nor the Made In Japan sticker look like anything I've seen on an SGC Nanyo before. Have you checked inside the control plate cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basskleftiko Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Not yet. I'm still tracking its painful progress from Whales to Scotland so don't even have it yet. Thanks for replying. I'm a total newbie at forums despite playing bass for last 34 years. Soon as I can, I'll check inside the cover... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 If it's coming from Whales, it's probably a very rare SGC Humpback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basskleftiko Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Lol. Can't believe I spelt Wales with an "h". My apologies to Welsh readers. Shall be more wary of auto spell correction on future entries :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overdriver Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 07/08/2017 at 12:55, Happy Jack said: Well my first thought is that neither the serial number sticker nor the Made In Japan sticker look like anything I've seen on an SGC Nanyo before. Have you checked inside the control plate cover? Mine, which I've just reacquired, had the made in japan sticker and a serial of 27019 both on the cavity cover and in the vaity itself. Any idea of age, in the end? Sorry to resurrect a thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 😂 Bizarrely enough, after five years I've actually forgotten what the original photos looked like ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overdriver Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 On 07/10/2022 at 20:18, Happy Jack said: 😂 Bizarrely enough, after five years I've actually forgotten what the original photos looked like ... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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