Shockwave Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) hey guys. I want to start playing some modern Dub Style bass. Much in this sort of vein of Dub trio. Which is a mixture of Dub Rock and metal. [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHV3UroHYs&feature=related"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHV3UroHYs&...feature=related[/url] (skip to 30 odd second mark) Or Matisyahu. [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hip2i9yHZ38&feature=related"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hip2i9yHZ38&...feature=related[/url] Anyway, I find jazz basses not my cup of tea. And i dont want to have to get this dubby effect with alot of bass pedals. So what basses would be suited to this task? Thinking along the lines of, G&L L 1000, Telecaster mudbucker bass. Etc. I need something for around 300-500. Preferably non pointy or ridiculous. I have a bunch of Musicmans but the bridge bucker just is not dubby enough on its own. Also i am not a fan of Jazz basses. Also Flats or Rounds? (Considering i play VERY light Rounds and have never played flats) Rob. PS, I am not looking for an old school sound. very much hifi/dub. Edited October 29, 2008 by Shockwave Quote
Stewart Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 The clip isn't what I'd call dub particularly - possible with most setups I'd have thought, certainly a precision or jazz but perhaps not quite Musicman. Filters are the key to most dub bass sounds I reckon (not necessarily a pedal - every bass amp I've seen has high cut and low boost controls)... Of course, lots of 18" speakers in cabs the size of large wardrobes helps Quote
bremen Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 [quote name='Shockwave' post='317777' date='Oct 29 2008, 05:22 PM']hey guys. I want to start playing some modern Dub Style bass. Much in this sort of vein of Dub trio. Which is a mixture of Dub Rock and metal. [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHV3UroHYs&feature=related"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHV3UroHYs&...feature=related[/url] (skip to 30 odd second mark) Or Matisyahu. [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hip2i9yHZ38&feature=related"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hip2i9yHZ38&...feature=related[/url] Anyway, I find jazz basses not my cup of tea. And i dont want to have to get this dubby effect with alot of bass pedals. So what basses would be suited to this task? Thinking along the lines of, G&L L 1000, Telecaster mudbucker bass. Etc. I need something for around 300-500. Preferably non pointy or ridiculous. I have a bunch of Musicmans but the bridge bucker just is not dubby enough on its own. Also i am not a fan of Jazz basses. Also Flats or Rounds? (Considering i play VERY light Rounds and have never played flats) Rob. PS, I am not looking for an old school sound. very much hifi/dub.[/quote] Hey, good stuff! I'd not heard them before. I'd say the sound was mostly in the fingers; played lightly, over the neck. Right enough the pickup on a Ray is too close to the bridge for that warm heavy sound. I have a 5 string with 2 Ray pickups and I use the neck pickup for that sound...you probably don't want to mutilate your bass though. Quote
BassBod Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 Thomastik flats - feel wimpy but sound big and old. Bass wise, anything with a humbucker near the end of the neck, or a Pbass pickup (DiMarzios are good and warm). The old Ovation Magnums are a good bet...but really ugly. Somebody will correct me, I know.... BB Quote
BigRedX Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 ACG Filter pre-amp. Tune down the filter cut-off frequency and turn up the Q. Works a treat on my basses with it fitted. Quote
Shaggy Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 [quote name='BassBod' post='317830' date='Oct 29 2008, 06:43 PM']The old Ovation Magnums are a good bet...but really ugly. Somebody will correct me, I know.... BB[/quote] Oooh you heartless swine! She’s all offended now…… Jah Wobble famously gets his dub sound on these, and me and Alison Goldfrapp think they’re bloomin gorgeous! Gibson EB's too, but I reckon you can't beat a P with flats and the tone rolled off. Quote
BassBod Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 I knew I'd offend someone......hope you're looking after that old Pbass, and not putting it too close to the Magnum..... BB Quote
Shaggy Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 [quote name='BassBod' post='318318' date='Oct 30 2008, 12:55 PM']I knew I'd offend someone......hope you're looking after that old Pbass, and not putting it too close to the Magnum..... BB[/quote] Why - what sort of mutant offspring would they produce? NB; The P is still my main squeeze - now got a Badass II back on it, definitely improved sustain. Quote
Raslee Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) I play mainly reggae/dub bass, well with a name like Rasta i'm sure it's no surprise Anyhow, for a bass i can recommend the small headless Hohners (B2A?) or Steinbergers - light as a feather and something very irie about their phat sounds! I used to have one and am considering getting one again but probably a 4 string as i found the 'B' a little flappy on the 5. Experimenting with an envelope filter can also generate some low dubby tones if the filter is not fully opened, i personally don't use effects but i have tried it out in the studio and was quite impressed. As for big speakers, well i got a 6x10...i generally prefer this over 15" & 18" as it shifts more air efficiently and if you hunt around you can pick up the odd 6x10 or 8x10 pretty cheap. Most reggae bassists favour the fridge, Ampeg 8x10...but i have to say the Warwick i use is pretty close to that sound and at 900W is rarely ticking over. Having said all this i use a Jazz bass or P bass and lately have just started using a 15" cab for another band where i play reggae, ska and funk and i am loving the sound of the 15" again...but the good thing about the rig in my aviator (Eden WT800 & Warwick 6x10 900W) is that it just ticks over at a phat sound and the engine is never screaming....so smooth n phat and you can feel it in your belly! General rule of thumb from what i have seen, if you want dub...you want big (simple fizix) - and back ache for life PS diggin the Dub Trio, never heard of em' before but reminding me a bit like Ozrics ish Edited October 30, 2008 by Rasta Quote
Shockwave Posted October 30, 2008 Author Posted October 30, 2008 Hmm, I am pretty sure my rig is a nice mix. Its one biamped cab, 1X15 600 Watt eminence speaker and 2X8's for a little high end definition. My marshall is pretty clean sounding, Maybe i want to go tube again. I'd need a pretty small amp head though, I dont drive and dont intend to. Bass wise, I love the look of the ovations, Not a fan of SG basses at all. How much dub is truly played on fretless? I can see why it would be good, But what artists use fretlesses for dub? Youtube examples maybe? Cheers. Rob. Quote
Rayman Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 Robbie Shakespeare is one of my heroes: [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RdAa2ktmWFc"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RdAa2ktmWFc[/url] Fender Jazz and TI flats would be my choice, with the top end rolled off. Otherwise, as metioned by Rasta, the Steinberger bat bass has been a popular choice by many, and the Hohner B2a is meant to be a good compromise. This lad plays plenty off vids on youtube via a Precision in the reggae style: [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mpLrdYYooLI"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mpLrdYYooLI[/url] Quote
SJA Posted November 3, 2008 Posted November 3, 2008 Bill Laswell uses fretted and fretless P basses IIRC with half-rounds for dub. Quote
Shockwave Posted November 18, 2008 Author Posted November 18, 2008 Hopefully my Dub problems will be sorted in the next few days, Watch this space! Quote
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