JamesBass Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 The Kill by 30 Seconds To Mars is a song I am currently teaching at a group junior tuition school. The drum teach, guitar teachers, and I were today debating what the time signature is. The drum teacher believes it to be 3/4. The guitar teachers and I are saying 6/8. Personally I'm feeling it as triplets over 2/4 or half time. Which would be counted as 6/8. Opinions from the wise old basschat community! https://youtu.be/8yvGCAvOAfM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Compound duple, now, difficult question, what kind of G&L is that? Nice to see one in a video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmjos Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Yeah Id give that 6/8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmjos Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Ok, I'm going to deviate off too. My wife got me to tag along to see these guys several years ago in London before they got bigger. I hate that bloody Jared Leto! Good looking, film actor, impressive singer/performer live and just to put pepper on it was dating Cameron Diaz round the time she fitted into that red dress in The Mask....... boom! When I saw them bass player Tomo was on a P - bit of G&L product placement methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 6/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) its 6/8 Should the drum teacher maybe know this.? Edited June 29, 2017 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 6/8 http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0055856 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Kick on beat one, snare on beat 2, triplets. Definitely 6/8. I feel sorry for the drum teachers students Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 It occurs sufficiently often in classical music that it has a name - hemiola. Its 6/8 but there's definitely 3 over 2 polyrhythms involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) [quote name='paul_c2' timestamp='1498781258' post='3327061'] It occurs sufficiently often in classical music that it has a name - hemiola. Its 6/8 but there's definitely 3 over 2 polyrhythms involved. [/quote] Agreed, along with 6/8 for me as well. I can see why the OP Drummer might think it's 3/4, @5:08 when the Drums drop out, there is a definite Viennese Waltz feel. So, I wouldn't write the Drummer off as a dud just yet. Edited June 30, 2017 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) [quote name='paul_c2' timestamp='1498781258' post='3327061'] It occurs sufficiently often in classical music that it has a name - hemiola. Its 6/8 but there's definitely 3 over 2 polyrhythms involved. [/quote] thanks for this, just had an interesting read of the Wikipedia entry on this. [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemiola"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemiola[/url] I found the only way to count this song was 1-2-3 2-2-3, for most of the song the empahsis was on the first beat of the triplet and you could almost class it as a quick 3/4 (you could almost hear it as a waltz or end up swinging it) but there were some ambiguities which is where the 3 over 2 comes in I guess. I love these ambiguous rhythms. Didn't know about hemiola but now I know why Bernstein's America is so catchy Edited June 30, 2017 by Phil Starr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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