Why can't singers sing in the original key?

[Dan Dare]

[quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1499467882' post='3331804']
Judging by the amount of chart music where huge amounts of autotune are applied deliberately making the artist sound like a robot, i fear for the future of singing?
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Chart music is a tiny part of the totality of music. It may have a high profile, but it is an irrelevance. The "future of singing" is safe. It just ain't in the hands of western chart music and its purveyors.

[Earbrass]

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1499498362' post='3331850']
Chart music is a tiny part of the totality of music. It may have a high profile, but it is an irrelevance. The "future of singing" is safe. It just ain't in the hands of western chart music and its purveyors.
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+100

Anyone wishing to reassure themselves as to the future of singing could do worse than come along to the Union Chapel, Islington tonight (Sat 8th July) to check out [url="http://laboratoriumpiesni.pl/en/"]Laboratorium Pieśni[/url]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFOpZAjlBkk[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkxKfDmKzrk[/media]

Edited July 8, 2017 by Earbrass

[mentalextra]

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1499498362' post='3331850']
Chart music is a tiny part of the totality of music. It may have a high profile, but it is an irrelevance. The "future of singing" is safe. It just ain't in the hands of western chart music and its purveyors.
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I hope you're right, because there does seem to be a growing trend of using these heavily processed effects on vocals in both chart and non chart music. I guess its the new normal, not mine?

[Dad3353]

[quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1499511364' post='3331941']
I hope you're right, because there does seem to be a growing trend of using these heavily processed effects on vocals in both chart and non chart music...
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Slightly less so in operatic circles.

[mentalextra]

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1499513128' post='3331952']
Slightly less so in operatic circles.
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Well, no dad. I'm not attempting to defend these vocal effects, its just an observation?

[Dad3353]

[quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1499518303' post='3331984']
Well, no dad. I'm not attempting to defend these vocal effects, its just an observation?
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The ' ' smiley that I often use denotes, I hope, a certain languid, 'tongue-in-cheek', sardonic intention, usually (but not always...) for posts supposed to be 'dead-pan' humour. I understand that this does not, in every case, get interpreted in that fashion, for which I apologise. No malice intended; respect. Cool.

[Jus Lukin]

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Edited March 1, 2022 by Jus Lukin

[Geek99]

[quote name='bassace' timestamp='1499177674' post='3329721']
I wouldn't have a problem with a singer wanting to go up or down a tone from the written key to suit their vocal range. You even get plenty of instrumentalists wanting a different key and I don't quite understand that.
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I fitted in with someone wanting to sing in F# - it wasnt difficult.

[Dood]

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1500038616' post='3335291']
I fitted in with someone wanting to sing in F# - it wasnt difficult.
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F#..... F# ..... F# .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfvfT14VUXk

[Geek99]

[quote name='dood' timestamp='1500041367' post='3335314']


F#..... F# ..... F# .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfvfT14VUXk
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I just used a capo, not very rock and roll, but it worked

[bassace]

F# is just plain bizarre. I can't imagine I'd come across someone wanting to sing in that key. Make 'em do it in F.

[Dad3353]

As long as the singer is using only either of the two common notes, I don't see the issue of singing F# over F. No-one would know.

[lowdown]

Singing Gb over F sounds better, and definitely no-one would know.

Edited July 14, 2017 by lowdown

[Rich]

Gb over E# is even better.

[Danuman]

[quote name='dood' timestamp='1500041367' post='3335314']


F#..... F# ..... F# .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfvfT14VUXk
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\o/ Tim Minchin \o/

Thanks for that!

[Grahambythesea]

Your voice changes as you get older too, it generally goes down a pitch or two unless really practice like a pro to keep your range up.

[Kevin Dean]

I hate it when a singer changes key , mainly because I'm usless ...Change key on "Hit Me with Your Rythm Stick" I'd rather tune up or down lol .

[Dood]

[quote name='Danuman' timestamp='1500075426' post='3335537']
\o/ Tim Minchin \o/

Thanks for that!
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Yeah, love it!

[oggiesnr]

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1499341356' post='3330835']

I think the OP was more asking why singers want to do songs if the original is so far out of their range.

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Sometimes it's the rest of the band who says "We must have x in the set" and it's the singer who has to try and find a way to make it work with their voice.