Dan Dare Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 [quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1499467882' post='3331804'] Judging by the amount of chart music where huge amounts of autotune are applied deliberately making the artist sound like a robot, i fear for the future of singing? [/quote] Chart music is a tiny part of the totality of music. It may have a high profile, but it is an irrelevance. The "future of singing" is safe. It just ain't in the hands of western chart music and its purveyors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earbrass Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) [quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1499498362' post='3331850'] Chart music is a tiny part of the totality of music. It may have a high profile, but it is an irrelevance. The "future of singing" is safe. It just ain't in the hands of western chart music and its purveyors. [/quote] +100 Anyone wishing to reassure themselves as to the future of singing could do worse than come along to the Union Chapel, Islington tonight (Sat 8th July) to check out [url="http://laboratoriumpiesni.pl/en/"]Laboratorium Pieśni[/url] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFOpZAjlBkk[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkxKfDmKzrk[/media] Edited July 8, 2017 by Earbrass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalextra Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 [quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1499498362' post='3331850'] Chart music is a tiny part of the totality of music. It may have a high profile, but it is an irrelevance. The "future of singing" is safe. It just ain't in the hands of western chart music and its purveyors. [/quote] I hope you're right, because there does seem to be a growing trend of using these heavily processed effects on vocals in both chart and non chart music. I guess its the new normal, not mine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 [quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1499511364' post='3331941'] I hope you're right, because there does seem to be a growing trend of using these heavily processed effects on vocals in both chart and non chart music... [/quote] Slightly less so in operatic circles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalextra Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1499513128' post='3331952'] Slightly less so in operatic circles. [/quote] Well, no dad. I'm not attempting to defend these vocal effects, its just an observation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 [quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1499518303' post='3331984'] Well, no dad. I'm not attempting to defend these vocal effects, its just an observation? [/quote] The ' ' smiley that I often use denotes, I hope, a certain languid, 'tongue-in-cheek', sardonic intention, usually (but not always...) for posts supposed to be 'dead-pan' humour. I understand that this does not, in every case, get interpreted in that fashion, for which I apologise. No malice intended; respect. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) - Edited March 1, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 [quote name='bassace' timestamp='1499177674' post='3329721'] I wouldn't have a problem with a singer wanting to go up or down a tone from the written key to suit their vocal range. You even get plenty of instrumentalists wanting a different key and I don't quite understand that. [/quote] I fitted in with someone wanting to sing in F# - it wasnt difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 [quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1500038616' post='3335291'] I fitted in with someone wanting to sing in F# - it wasnt difficult. [/quote] F#..... F# ..... F# ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfvfT14VUXk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 [quote name='dood' timestamp='1500041367' post='3335314'] F#..... F# ..... F# ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfvfT14VUXk [/quote] I just used a capo, not very rock and roll, but it worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 F# is just plain bizarre. I can't imagine I'd come across someone wanting to sing in that key. Make 'em do it in F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 As long as the singer is using only either of the two common notes, I don't see the issue of singing F# over F. No-one would know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Singing Gb over F sounds better, and definitely no-one would know. Edited July 14, 2017 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Gb over E# is even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danuman Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 [quote name='dood' timestamp='1500041367' post='3335314'] F#..... F# ..... F# ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfvfT14VUXk [/quote] \o/ Tim Minchin \o/ Thanks for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Your voice changes as you get older too, it generally goes down a pitch or two unless really practice like a pro to keep your range up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 I hate it when a singer changes key , mainly because I'm usless ...Change key on "Hit Me with Your Rythm Stick" I'd rather tune up or down lol . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 [quote name='Danuman' timestamp='1500075426' post='3335537'] \o/ Tim Minchin \o/ Thanks for that! [/quote] Yeah, love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oggiesnr Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1499341356' post='3330835'] I think the OP was more asking why singers want to do songs if the original is so far out of their range. [/quote] Sometimes it's the rest of the band who says "We must have x in the set" and it's the singer who has to try and find a way to make it work with their voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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