dmccombe7 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499289977' post='3330610'] This is me playing G# all the time and definitely no-one noticed [media]http://youtu.be/ygk9ZZjhrh4[/media] [/quote] Band sounds good. Do you play in Scotland at all. ? [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499291599' post='3330631'] Yes, I'm going to at tomorrow nights gig. Quite looking forward to it [/quote] Bet you forget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Glam Rock band i played with last year occasionally ran Jean Genie into Blockbuster by Sweet or did a medoly of them as both same riff EEE G#AG# Of course that could trigger another debate about Blockbuster by Sweet Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1499323956' post='3330687'] Glam Rock band i played with last year occasionally ran Jean Genie into Blockbuster by Sweet or did a medoly of them as both same riff EEE G#AG# Of course that could trigger another debate about Blockbuster by Sweet Dave [/quote]we've recently tried the same during rehearsals, I just stayed on the E for blockbuster (rightly or wrongly) then did the EGAG (g# actually, but I'll change it now) for Gene Genie, guitarist stayed the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksterphil Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='skidder652003' timestamp='1499272072' post='3330453'] Great thanks..now Ive got to learn it, your fault! [/quote] You'll be thanking me....it's a peach. I play the opening 8 bars at the 12th fret if that's any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='acidbass' timestamp='1499290174' post='3330614'] Always G for me [/quote] Good lad! I cannot believe people can't hear that different interval, the G Natural (as was mentioned prior) sounds much better, more raw, more feisty. It has to be right. I am not bothered really who's played G# etc even Gail D, I just wanted it to sound like thew original. I also told the band leader tonight I want to play the "early B mistake too!" The word Tribute has to make sense to me, failing that, you are a single act cover band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1499286898' post='3330587'] I used to play this (see attached from Ultimate Guitar) and shows G# A G# Not saying its right but it certainly sounded right when playing. [/quote] Well that's just some guy's transcribe to TAB (Which I don't read actually, easy to work out) But as we have found, it's not right. Just sounded too much like Block Buster by Sweet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499325181' post='3330696'] We haven't ventured that far yet . . . [/quote] Incidentally your band sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Is anyone else in the band playing that line? Like the guitarist? Better make sure you are both playing the same thing. FWIW everyone in my cover band played the riff with a G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='Northy' timestamp='1499329409' post='3330727'] Good lad! I cannot believe people can't hear that different interval, the G Natural (as was mentioned prior) sounds much better, more raw, more feisty. It has to be right. I am not bothered really who's played G# etc even Gail D, I just wanted it to sound like thew original. I also told the band leader tonight I want to play the "early B mistake too!" The word Tribute has to make sense to me, failing that, you are a single act cover band. [/quote]is that in the single version? apparently according to our guitarist who used to play in a Bowie tribute the single was just a demo they cut while touring America and the record company released it without telling them, that's why the Boulder mistake of not going to the chorus later on was never corrected, the Aladdin Sane version was rerecorded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 It's a 'G'..... The line/riff is Root/minor 3rd (G)/ 4th intervals. If you are playing Root/Maj 3rd (G#)/4th intervals, then you are playing 'Then He Kissed Me' (The Crystals) intervals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499332277' post='3330759'] I think Bowie himself would have taken issue with that. . . . [/quote] I get what you're saying Hiram, but that's the Luxury of Being the Tributed and not the Tributer for want of a better expression. For most people, if you deviate, they'd just say, "It wasn't quite the same??" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1499329936' post='3330736'] is that in the single version? . . . [/quote] Aladdin Sane version does have the early bass cock up in it actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1499330208' post='3330741'] It's a 'G'..... The line/riff is Root/minor 3rd (G)/ 4th intervals. . .. [/quote] Thank you :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) [quote name='Northy' timestamp='1499333444' post='3330771'] Aladdin Sane version does have the early bass cock up in it actually. [/quote]I don't think it's a cock up if he does it every time, if it's the same one we're talking about (just before Bowie starts singing) he does it on the live TOTP's version as well Edited July 6, 2017 by PaulWarning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineweasel Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Surely the "early bass cockup" is in fact the rest of the band not going into the chorus on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 You (I) can clearly hear the difference between the Bolder and Dorsey versions in the posted videos. At a live gig the difference will probably be less clear. Surely the most important factor is the 'feel' of it. The Bolder version is, well, 'bolder': a bit less 'poppy', a bit more edgy with ominous undertones . Cripes - I've turned into a wine taster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 has anybody found an internet tab that shows the correct way of playing the main riff? I haven't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1499338217' post='3330808'] has anybody found an internet tab that shows the correct way of playing the main riff? I haven't [/quote] It's Tab, so that's hardly surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1499338217' post='3330808'] has anybody found an internet tab that shows the correct way of playing the main riff? I haven't [/quote] Here's piano sheet music with left hand showing G natural .... not that it is any guarantee of anything ... although personally I would trust notation more than any internet tab: [url="http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0065616"]http://www.musicnote...p?ppn=MN0065616[/url] Edited July 6, 2017 by EssentialTension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) [quote name='scrumpymike' timestamp='1499337742' post='3330806'] ... the 'feel' of it. The Bolder version is, well, 'bolder': a bit less 'poppy', a bit more edgy with ominous undertones ... [/quote] Yes, the blues scale flat third G natural is, well, bluesier, sleazier, dirtier, bent a bit 'off-key', it's the blues and not the neat tidy unflattened third of the G major scale. And isn't the second G natural played under an A chord making it flat seventh not flat third, in that case? Edited July 6, 2017 by EssentialTension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='scrumpymike' timestamp='1499337742' post='3330806'] You (I) can clearly hear the difference between the Bolder and Dorsey versions [/quote] Exactly my point! :-) I prefer Trev's version of the early tunes. I once played in a Tears for Fears tribute too and really love what Gail does there AND with Bowie though . . . it's win win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1499345979' post='3330875'] Here's piano sheet music with left hand showing G natural .... [/quote] Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1499346239' post='3330878'] Yes, the blues scale flat third G natural is, well, bluesier, sleazier, dirtier, bent a bit 'off-key', it's the blues and not the neat tidy unflattened third of the G major scale. And isn't the second G natural played under an A chord making it flat seventh not flat third, in that case? [/quote] Totally and absolutely what I feel inside when I hear the original (Bolder version) rather than the semitone error versions. I am not declaring war here, I just can't be doing with the G# version, it's like fingernails down a chalk board But that's just MY opinion. Edited July 6, 2017 by Northy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='pineweasel' timestamp='1499337718' post='3330805'] Surely the "early bass cockup" is in fact the rest of the band not going into the chorus on time. [/quote] Well he plays the A at the end of the 15th bar rather than the usual 16th . . . I would say it was Mr Boulder at fault BUT who can criticise him, he's ace! AND It fits now, !!! Love it :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1499341114' post='3330831'] It's Tab, so that's hardly surprising. [/quote] Ahahaha! Perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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