Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499334371' post='3330779'] Sorry to disagree yet again, but we have quite a few die hard Bowie fans come along to our gigs and they know that we'll play the Reality Tour versions of Loving The Alien and Life on Mars? as well as the BBC version of Ashes to Ashes. The list goes on. We keep to Bowie versions, but not necessarily the original. The uninformed might notice that 'it's not quite like the single', but the real fans know where we're coming from and appreciate it. [/quote] No, we agree on that, if it's a VERSION by the artist then cool, I'd go along with that. The point of this thread is weather or not a note is wrong or right, G# is wrong whichever version I have heard. It really doesn't matter. I spoke with the would be Mick Ronson (Dave, Guitar) last night and confessed that something so simple had really got me 'caught up'. I also told him about this thread and that more respected and accepted players than me (yourself Hiram) were also not entirely sure. All he said was: "I think either of them would do!!" lol laughed my head off! Agggrrrhhhh I was in pain thinking they would sack me for not knowing something so seemingly trivial. That'll learn me! Thanks for all your input guys, really appreciate it. Edited July 6, 2017 by Northy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Here's a guitar/vocal sheet music (with tab) that has G# in the guitar part ... [url="http://www.onlinesheetmusic.com/the-jean-genie-p396281.aspx"]http://www.onlinesheetmusic.com/the-jean-genie-p396281.aspx[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='Northy' timestamp='1499349154' post='3330918'] ... "I think either of them would do!!" ... [/quote] Although I personally prefer the G natural, I think your guitarist is correct either will do. You can even get away with bass/guitar/harmonica not all doing the same - it's slurred, it's passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Just to throw a spanner in the works I'm liking the sound/feel of G natural on the way up and G# on the way down. Fits very nicely if I play along with the album version... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 *looks at topic title* Sometimes I play a J, sometimes a J# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksterphil Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='toneknob' timestamp='1499351099' post='3330937'] *looks at topic title* Sometimes I play a J, sometimes a J# [/quote] Arf Arf...nice one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1499350690' post='3330931'] Just to throw a spanner in the works I'm liking the sound/feel of G natural on the way up and G# on the way down. Fits very nicely if I play along with the album version... [/quote] Hahaha I actually mentioned that on the Talk Bass room I think, facebook at least. My guitarist friend suggested that might be a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottastopbuyinggear Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='Northy' timestamp='1499354224' post='3330970'] Hahaha I actually mentioned that on the Talk Bass room I think, facebook at least. My guitarist friend suggested that might be a solution. [/quote] You two have beaten me to it, but that's the way I'd play it - G A G#. Maybe the faintest hint of a hammer on to the G# sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 [quote name='Gottastopbuyinggear' timestamp='1499360189' post='3331031'] You two have beaten me to it, but that's the way I'd play it - G A G#. Maybe the faintest hint of a hammer on to the G# sometimes. [/quote] I tried that, mehhh, but try G#-A-G hahaha really, I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksterphil Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499385085' post='3331284'] Ah, I see. Crossed wires. Apologies. As we were 👍 [/quote] I checked out your website....cool site and it seems we have a shared love of hats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Check out the interview with Trevor Bolder showing how he played Jean Genie at approx 54 secs onwards. He seems to be playing the GAG on the G string Really good VID. http://youtu.be/o0alKcvXzS0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1499423151' post='3331459'] Check out the interview with Trevor Bolder showing how he played Jean Genie at approx 54 secs onwards. He seems to be playing the GAG on the G string Really good VID. [media]http://youtu.be/o0alKcvXzS0[/media] [/quote] As clear as day. Is there anyone they didn't musically rip something from on that track ? The Yardbirds, the Beatles (Harmonica Solo).... Edited July 8, 2017 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1499423151' post='3331459'] Really good VID. [/quote] Excellent, thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksterphil Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1499430082' post='3331521'] Excellent, thanks for posting. [/quote] + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1499423151' post='3331459'] Check out the interview with Trevor Bolder [/quote] I am so grateful for this, thanks a lot! :-) Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1499423151' post='3331459'] Check out the interview with Trevor Bolder showing how he played Jean Genie at approx 54 secs onwards. He seems to be playing the GAG on the G string Really good VID. [media]http://youtu.be/o0alKcvXzS0[/media] [/quote] Think that should have been 54 mins. Sorry was on way out to a funeral and a bit of a rush. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksterphil Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499441909' post='3331615'] Ah thanks. Very kind of you. I domlove a nice hat [/quote] Can I ask what pedals you're using, particularly to reproduce Trevor B's overdriven EB3 sound? I too am in a Bowie Tribute band. I've got a couple - Triton-labs Dual fet, a Rodenberg gas dual something. I've also tried a Lehle Baswitch sonic spark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 He managed to get an overdriven sound from his precision basses too Probably the amp was doing most of it. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) This is The Yardbirds version of Bo Diddley's 'I'm a Man' that Bolder refers to in the interview ... [media]http://youtu.be/nLIzRBelEf8[/media] Edited July 7, 2017 by EssentialTension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 The harmonica is definitely playing the G# note (probably to do with note bending on a harmonica), which confuses things, but the bass is playing the GAG. The single version was just the second take, so these little details probably weren't noticed at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksterphil Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499467245' post='3331803'] Sure no problem. I've recently changed my set up and at the moment I'm using a Darkglass 900 head with the B3K switched on. It can produce a nice mildly distorted overdriven effect. I also use that combined with a Cog Custom Grand Tarkin Bass Fuzz for Fame so that the bass pretty much owns the space in that song. [/quote] Thanks for this, is your bass active or passive....seems to make a lot of difference to some pedals I've tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzbass Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 it's definitely G# A G# my ears tell me it's off when I play G A G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 [quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1499656143' post='3332743'] it's definitely G# A G# my ears tell me it's off when I play G A G [/quote] Yep i know as that's how i've always played it but Trevor shows you how he played it on the VID i posted around 54mins into VID. Tried it his way and it never sounds right but as many have quoted above just play it how you think it should be played as most won't notice the diff. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksterphil Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1499669908' post='3332778'] Yep i know as that's how i've always played it but Trevor shows you how he played it on the VID i posted around 54mins into VID. Tried it his way and it never sounds right but as many have quoted above just play it how you think it should be played as most won't notice the diff. Dave [/quote] Agreed. G# A G#. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Thanks dmccombe7 for posting The Spiders From Mars Interviews - just finished watching and loved it! Brought back some happy memories of playing Bowie stuff - including The G-G - dep'ing behind a really good Bowie tribute artist at a one-off charity gig years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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