SH73 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Hi B-chatters, This is my first, hopefully thorough guitar rebuild. I have attempted one decades ago, which turned out decent ish. This time, I decided to re build my electric guitar, namely Cruzer ST-220/3TS Sunburst. I`ve had this guitar for about 5 years from new but I thought I `ll give it a complete make over. I`m not a fan of sunburst...... The plan is to insert a floating tremolo with lock nut, and new hardware. Also set of new pick ups with similar characteristics to dimarzio super distortion and samarium noiseless. All hardware will be black including pick ups.Initially, I wanted the guitar white but I`m thinking of marbleling painting method. Have yet to decide on the colour. White/blue with black hardware would look nice. BTW, any suggestions on new colour are welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 I started sanding the top guitar surface. It appears it is polyurethane. So I got the heat gun out and removed a small part but noticed there is some more plastic like underneath.The guitar body is apparently, according to internet search, made of basswood, but the body material seems to be something else. Could it be made of some hard plastic? This might make it difficult when it comes to routing the body to fit the floyd rose. I have sanded of the guitar logo and sanded off the neck thickness. The neck felt comfortable as it was so I only gave a little sanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I've had that on a japans squier - it was kinda this awful mess of bad basswood, coated in a plastic type outer that made it hard. I picked the body up secondhand and someone had taken a chunk of the plastic type layer off already - I ended up buying a cheap replacement body. My 2p if you haven't already taken it off - leave it and use the existing base to put your paint on - there's no need to take it back to the wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) New pick ups arrived from Iron Gear. Edited July 15, 2017 by SH73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1500108305' post='3335637'] I've had that on a japans squier - it was kinda this awful mess of bad basswood, coated in a plastic type outer that made it hard. I picked the body up secondhand and someone had taken a chunk of the plastic type layer off already - I ended up buying a cheap replacement body. My 2p if you haven't already taken it off - leave it and use the existing base to put your paint on - there's no need to take it back to the wood [/quote] I only removed a small piece of outer coating. I filled the missing bit with a thin layer of Gorilla glue, so no major damage done. Thanks for advice Edited July 15, 2017 by SH73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Certainly leave the undercoat on if you're refinishing it anyway. I've seen someone recently finish a guitar using magic marble paint on another forum - however it did take him several attempts to get it right, and levelling it out afterwards wasn't easy. (Magic marble is a paint that you float on water and then dip the guitar body into - you'll need a big plastic bin, enough to submerge the whole body if you're going that route) I'm not sure if I'd use gorilla glue anywhere. Afaik it expands in contact with water, including natural humidity. As far as removing the existing finish, you shouldn't need to. Just sand it all to provide a decent key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 [quote name='Norris' timestamp='1500128312' post='3335795'] Certainly leave the undercoat on if you're refinishing it anyway. I've seen someone recently finish a guitar using magic marble paint on another forum - however it did take him several attempts to get it right, and levelling it out afterwards wasn't easy. (Magic marble is a paint that you float on water and then dip the guitar body into - you'll need a big plastic bin, enough to submerge the whole body if you're going that route) I'm not sure if I'd use gorilla glue anywhere. Afaik it expands in contact with water, including natural humidity. As far as removing the existing finish, you shouldn't need to. Just sand it all to provide a decent key [/quote] Thanks for advice much appreciated. The gorilla glue is 100 % once dried so should be fine for that missing flake of polyurethane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 Can't decide on colour. Thinking surf green with pearl white pickguard or white with pearl white pickguard. Marbeling painting might be harder than it looks. Any suggestions on colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Surf Green red tort plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 Not sure about red tortoise pickguard on surf green.Looks like Jimmy Hendrix had one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 As you've already got a pearl white pickguard I'd probably go for a mid to dark tone that isn't in the usual Fender palette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Holographic colour flip flake over black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 [quote name='SH73' timestamp='1500317207' post='3336908'] Not sure about red tortoise pickguard on surf green.Looks like Jimmy Hendrix had one. [/quote] I think it's a great combo. (not my guitar) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 First two coats if primer applied.....so far so good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 Basschat won`t allow me to attach more images? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) Right, the work progress so far. I marked up the position for floyd rose and now it needs routing out.I've decided on colour. Once done I'll post the final picture. https://1drv.ms/i/s!AnEgrPnQ1p8Ib7_nIY5SJwNFljY https://1drv.ms/i/s!AnEgrPnQ1p8Icm8otMeLqv8GN18 Edited July 23, 2017 by SH73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) Guitar routed for tremolo. Edited May 23, 2018 by SH73 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) Lock nut attached. Edited May 23, 2018 by SH73 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 The guitar has had few colours since August, but I was not happy with the job. The lack of experience with spraying guitars cost me money and time but now I have decided on the colour scheme so the paint is left to cure before I apply another colour to match the pattern and hopefully I'll be ready to instal hardware , electronics from a basschat member before the Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) The final colour scheme has been completed. Still needs lacquer. Edited May 23, 2018 by SH73 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, SH73 said: The final colour scheme has been completed. Still needs lacquer. I like that a lot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Ran out of lacquer whilst finishing off the second rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonBassAlpha Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I was hoping for a blue and white marbled finish that looked like a massive chunk of blue cheese! What you've done looks nice too though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, MoonBassAlpha said: I was hoping for a blue and white marbled finish that looked like a massive chunk of blue cheese! What you've done looks nice too though Cheers mate. Disaster today, sprayed the lacquer on and the paint cracked. Looks like will have to start all over again😣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) Disaster stroke. The lacquer didnt like the base colour. So stripping off the paint and start all over again 🤣 Edited May 23, 2018 by SH73 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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