hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 Another classic from Dave who tells it like it is as usual. I do think he has a point about the saddle adjustment. http://youtu.be/nQgAv2jcmcI Quote
BassBus Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Certainly Dave at his grumpy best. Roger Sadowsky doesn't speak too highly of the instruments either. Edited July 30, 2017 by BassBus Quote
Kev Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 Can't believe he didn't mention the hole around the treble pickup... Quote
Skybone Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Or the cable route from the control cavity to the neck pickup. Quote
KiOgon Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) I searched every music shop in that London in '73 to buy a Ricky, coulnd't find a good one ended up with a beautiful Italian Blonde - Gherson Yes - Dave tells it like it is Edited July 31, 2017 by KiOgon Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 No mention of the finish bleed into the bindings, neck dive, crappy pickup cover thing, razor Sharp body edges? Calling 4000 Quote
mentalextra Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Classic Dave! Have you watched his video where he describes his experience of gigging with one? Quote
prowla Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 This is a bit old, but doing the rounds again. He's rambling on about Roger Glover, but RG still has a Ric. He also mentions Geddy Lee; Geddy still has his. He bought one in '75 for $700; I bought one in '77 for £220 (it wasn't new, though). I used Rotosound Swing Bass strings on mine. It kindof pleases me that the RIc bridge upsets him. The bridge is just a variation on the tune-o-matic and people don't complain about Gibson height adjustment. Once it's done it's done; it's not like you're twiddling with the intonation every day, is it? He doesn't like the machines - ho-hum. "Rickenbacker do not publish any setup specs" - I thought they said the neck straight? He can't find the right wrench for the truss rods - heck, maybe he needs to check his tools... But when he gets his act together, he does acknowledge the two truss rod adjustment. He seems to like the Ric sound and can handle "Anthem". He makes a comment about the difference in volume between the two pickups, but that's a characteristic; if you use stereo/Ric-o-Sound it doesn't matter. Of course, the more recent ones have the vintage/modern switch to give you the choice. For me, the Ric is the best looking, best made, best finished, best sounding bass there is. Blaming it for being different is kindof missing the point. Quote
ezbass Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 [quote name='prowla' timestamp='1501500719' post='3345020'] This is a bit old, but doing the rounds again. He's rambling on about Roger Glover, but RG still has a Ric. He also mentions Geddy Lee; Geddy still has his. He bought one in '75 for $700; I bought one in '77 for £220 (it wasn't new, though). I used Rotosound Swing Bass strings on mine. It kindof pleases me that the RIc bridge upsets him. The bridge is just a variation on the tune-o-matic and people don't complain about Gibson height adjustment. Once it's done it's done; it's not like you're twiddling with the intonation every day, is it? He doesn't like the machines - ho-hum. "Rickenbacker do not publish any setup specs" - I thought they said the neck straight? He can't find the right wrench for the truss rods - heck, maybe he needs to check his tools... But when he gets his act together, he does acknowledge the two truss rod adjustment. He seems to like the Ric sound and can handle "Anthem". He makes a comment about the difference in volume between the two pickups, but that's a characteristic; if you use stereo/Ric-o-Sound it doesn't matter. Of course, the more recent ones have the vintage/modern switch to give you the choice. For me, the Ric is the best looking, best made, best finished, best sounding bass there is. Blaming it for being different is kindof missing the point. [/quote]You're right about the bridge, once set, it's fine; at least for me. Rics are quirky and some of the finishing is plain lazy (my bridge pickup and surround were not fitted on straight). However, it is these quirks that make it iconic and different. My 4003s is a beast to play compared to my Maruszczyks (which are a lesson in build perfection), but it is fun to play. Quote
ahpook Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 [quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1501494591' post='3344963'] Classic Dave! Have you watched his video where he describes his experience of gigging with one? [/quote] Have you a link ? Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 There's absolutely no way they are the best made and best finished basses out there, everything else is subjective I'll conceed. Quote
Geek99 Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) Nothing I have ever seen has persuaded me to want one. I just think something that expensive should be perfect in every way I'm really glad he's not being uber critical just for the sake of it though Edited July 31, 2017 by Geek99 Quote
pbasspecial Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 I have never got on with Rics, think they are too much money for too little bass. I needed one some years ago for a Mod covers band. Bought a retrovibe for a fraction of the cost, sold it as soon as the band finished. P bass all the way, thank you very muchly. Quote
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted July 31, 2017 Author Posted July 31, 2017 [quote name='prowla' timestamp='1501500719' post='3345020'] For me, the Ric is the best looking, best made, best finished, best sounding bass there is. [/quote] Best finished bass out there? That's a hell of a stretch. I've owned quite a few Ric's and played even more. I'm still a Ric owner and no way would I describe them as the best finished bass there is. Quite the opposite in fact. Quote
BigRedX Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 A Rickenbacker isn't a Fender... What a surprise! Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1501507462' post='3345121'] A Rickenbacker isn't a Fender... What a surprise! [/quote] My first proper bass was a 1993 Peavey Foundation that cost around £260, it was FAR better made than ANY Ric I've ever seen in the flesh, the design and construction was great with good fret work and paint finish along with a functioning bridge and nothing sharp to rip my fingers open on, the only cool thing about a Ric is the look of it. Quote
dmccombe7 Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 I had one in early 80's and it was a reasonable enough build quality. Don't recall any great issues with it. My main gripe was that it was a one trick pony to me. It couldn't give me the same variation of tones that other basses could. Think i bought a Jazz bass after it. Must admit to loving the look of them and nearly bought one last year but decided to go for Fender PJ instead. Might still get one tho. They are an iconic looking bass. Dave Quote
ivansc Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) [quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1501486440' post='3344876'] I searched every music shop in that London in '73 to buy a Ricky, coulnd't find a good one ended up with a beautiful Italian Blonde - Gherson Yes - Dave tells it like it is [/quote] Bought mine in 1972 - you snooze you lose! ONE out of all the ones I tried in the Denmark Street area was a nice instrument, so I bought it. Traded for a Travis Bean a few years later because it was chewing the skin off my right forearm! Edited July 31, 2017 by ivansc Quote
Monkey Steve Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 I love my Ricky 4001. Fast, slim neck, looks brilliant, makes "that" clank, and mine's a s/h 1975 model that's been beaten to crap. Only issue I have with it these days is that it only has four strings, so it rarely gets played in a band. Quote
Dad3353 Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1501513061' post='3345170']...They are an iconic looking bass... [/quote] A full-size photo pinned to the wall could scratch that itch, perhaps..? Quote
TheGreek Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 [quote name='prowla' timestamp='1501500719' post='3345020'] For me, the Ric is the best looking, best made, best finished, best sounding bass there is. [/quote] You're such a kidder... Quote
HazBeen Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 I love how Rickenbacker divides, you either love them and defend them to death or you absolutely hate them..... I am of the latter persuasion, never got the point of them and their fugly. But hey, taste = personal! Quote
paul_5 Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Wow, he's quite a curmudgeon isn't he? Doesn't stop him being right though.., Quote
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