Handwired Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 From left to right: Fender 78 ESP Vintage Four (Bare Knuckle 65) Fender Custom Shop 57 Journeyman (Bare Knuckle 65) ESP Vintage Four (Lollar) Fender 60th anniversary (Bare Knuckle) Limelight 65 (Lollar) is across the top. Any guesses at which one's the best sounding/playing/all rounder? [attachment=251060:P Collection.JPG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumphman Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 The Rick 4001 just out of shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fftc Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Nice collection. I'm gonna guess the limelight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntLockyer Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Sunburst ESP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Have had a couple of 78s, so will guess that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc S Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Best sounding? Hmmm... is it the Limelight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lw. Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Nice collection! What does the Bare Knuckle pick-up give you that the custom shop pick-up didn't? I have an '57 journey man too & love the sound so interested to hear what I'm missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 [quote name='Lw.' timestamp='1502370117' post='3350998'] What does the Bare Knuckle pick-up give you that the custom shop pick-up didn't? I have an '57 journey man too & love the sound so interested to hear what I'm missing? [/quote] I have the Bareknuckle in my '61P (installed by previous owner) and it's an excellent pickup. I'm getting a '64 restored at the moment and that's getting a Nordstrand NP4v put in - quite looking forward to seeing how they both compare actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handwired Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 [quote name='Triumphman' timestamp='1502363565' post='3350925'] The Rick 4001 just out of shot? [/quote]I'll post my Ricks another day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handwired Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 [quote name='Lw.' timestamp='1502370117' post='3350998'] Nice collection! What does the Bare Knuckle pick-up give you that the custom shop pick-up didn't? I have an '57 journey man too & love the sound so interested to hear what I'm missing? [/quote]Everything! tone, power, clarity but most of all punch. However, I blame the staggered poles on the Custom shop pup, especially the 'A' as it's height dictated how low the action could go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumphman Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 [quote name='Handwired' timestamp='1502380578' post='3351118'] I'll post my Ricks another day! [/quote] Now you're talking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsmokebass Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 How do you rate the ESPs? Surprised you haven't got a Yamaha BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsmokebass Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 * have you tried the LTD models and if So, worth an investment or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc S Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Come on - tell us which one sounds best.... I can't bear the suspense! lol Given my current, and rather sudden onset of GAS for a 62 RI, on seeing the photo of your collection - perhaps I CAN justify one more P bass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Those ESPs are by far the best aesthetically! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handwired Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 Ok, in sixth place, the Limelight, but still plays and sounds better than most US standard Precisions I've owned/played (pickup change is a must on Limelights). Then the 78, no pickup change necessary, a fine example. Next is the sunburst ESP, a great player. these basses have a lot of bottom end but the stock SD vintage hot enhanced the lows even more, hence the Lollar to tighten up the basement. Third is my 60th anniversary, This is a very special bass, the best player out of the bunch, the vintage Fender pup wasn't too bad, but lacked in fundamental lows due to the ash body I suspect. The Lollar didn't make any difference but the BK 65 did. The BK 58 with it's thicker bottom may have been a better choice, but sometimes it's good to have the option to use a less overpowering instrument in a difficult room. Equal first, the maple necked ESP vintage four, (very similar to the other V4 but I prefer the maple neck).and the Fender CS Journeyman. The Lollar didn't improve the tone much but the BK 65 made this guitar very special, not the best player as the neck is a monster but the tone is awesome, excelling in the upper mids. I've tried quite a few high end pickups in all of these basses and found that different basses suit different pickups, however, then there's the BK 65's which seem to bring out the best in any bass they're put in. My main amps are a Ampeg V4-B and a Genz Benz STR 900, both through a Barefaced Retro Six10. I mostly use DR Lo-riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Interesting results there, and yep, different pickups/body-woods do make a difference and the pairing of each again can provide quite different results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I've tried a CS 64 journeyman against my 64, and it was real damn close - tonally the 64 was a bit more rounded and subtle, and the Braz board felt nicer, but other than that it was a fag paper different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handwired Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 I would have included my G&L P's but my Sofa wasn't big enough. [attachment=251229:G&L collection.JPG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lw. Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 [quote name='Handwired' timestamp='1502380913' post='3351122'] Everything! tone, power, clarity but most of all punch. However, I blame the staggered poles on the Custom shop pup, especially the 'A' as it's height dictated how low the action could go. [/quote] Interesting. Yes I could do without the A-poles too, they're annoying - I don't use super low action anyway so have got it to nearly where I want it but it would be so much easier if it just had normal height A-poles - I do really like the tone of the bass/pick-up though! Anyway - glad you're enjoying the Journeyman, I think they're awesome playing instruments - once you get used to that chunky neck it's just so comfortable to play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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