giamma Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Does anyone have experience with this cab and double bass? I actualy play with an Aguilar Tone Hammer and a Gallien Krueger mbx 112 or an Epifani 12" and, to be honest, 90% of my gig are with the mbx cause is really unbeatable for its portability but I would like something come full range. Could the Barefaced be a good option for replace the GK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 My favourite rig for DB gigs is an Aguilar TH350 into a Barefaced OneTen. The whole thing, complete with cables etc., fits into a standard cajon bag which I can wear as a backpack while towing my DB behind me. This rig does NOT sound as good as my Bass Tank doubling amp, or as some of the glorious amps & combos at the Double Bass Bash earlier this year, but it combines extreme portability (it's far lighter than most of my rigs) with being very sound-engineer-friendly where I'm going through the PA (excellent DI and very high-quality backline). If the slight drop in quality of reproduction of "that DB sound" worries me, then I simply add a Fishman Plat Pro pedal to the rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Sorry no DB experience but my electro-acoustic sounds lovely through my One10. These cabs really are excellent and I'm just waiting for my second one to arrive so I'll have a mini-stack. In fact, I'll probably add a 3rd one as I now have an amp that switches down to 2.7ohms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I certainly agree with HJ re convenience and portability. I get a good sound with my OneTen from my Kolstein Travel bass fitted with a magnetic pickup. And it has a strong sound with my 'outside' bass, a ply bass with an Underwood pickup. But with my Bryant and Gage Lifeline pickup it is too dark with not a lot of mid range articulation. And I guess this'll be the case with the Gage Realist. You can mitigate the darkness by standing the cab off the floor a bit. The Barefaced Super Midget is a better proposition, not a lot heavier but significantly more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Is that because of the horn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1503480583' post='3358515'] Is that because of the horn? [/quote] Maybe, but the gen 3 12" driver seems a lot more 'open'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Sorry giamma, missed the "full range" requirement. I agree with bassace that the Super Midget should be better for you. I recently sold my first generation Midget T as I didn't really need the top end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 [quote name='bassace' timestamp='1503481038' post='3358522'] Maybe, but the gen 3 12" driver seems a lot more 'open'. [/quote] +1 - I've also got a Super Compact Gen 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJ Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I had a OneTen and it didn't really work out for my needs playing double bass. There was just not enough clarity. It's great at other things but if you want a full detailed DB tone I'd look elsewhere. As mentioned, the Midget would probably be better suited or maybe the Fearless F110 built by Tricky Audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 That Tricky Audio stuff is seriously lush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljbass Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) If you don´t mind mention it in Barefaced thread, try to check the 10.5 on [url="http://www.soundelirium.com"]www.soundelirium.com[/url] - Jan is a custom bass cabinet maker, well known member of Czech bass guitar forum (some of his work is here [url="http://baskytara.com/topic7873-soundelirium-thread-a-samodomo-contents.html"]http://baskytara.com...o-contents.html[/url] ). He is starting some serious bussiness now, offering his suprisingly light and perfectly constructed cabinets with custom sound characteristics... Edited August 24, 2017 by ljbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giamma Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 Seems that the most of you agreed with the fact that the sound isn't full range. I've been playing with GK mbx since now and the portability is really unbeatable..I was looking for something of the same size/weight but with a more complex tone..seems I'm looking for something that simply doesn't exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 [quote name='giamma' timestamp='1503563629' post='3359116']...seems I'm looking for something that simply doesn't exist [/quote] Welcome to Basschat. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giamma Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1503564163' post='3359125'] Welcome to Basschat. ... [/quote] ) thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) [quote name='giamma' timestamp='1503563629' post='3359116'] Could the Barefaced be a good option for replace the GK? . . . seems I'm looking for something that simply doesn't exist. . . [/quote] There are always options. Barefaced would certainly be a good choice and easily replace your GK. They have a 1 month trial period after which you can send the cab back. IMO if the One10 doesn't work then the SM will. There's also the Genzler Magellan series, AER Bass One combo and the smaller Aguilar cabs. All great products. One thing that you really shouldn't expect is to replicate the sound of your old rig when you change parts of your signal chain. Change an amp or cab and you [u]will[/u] sound different. Upgrade to the right cab and that difference will be an improvement to your sound. Edit to add a Bergantino 112 to the list Edited August 24, 2017 by chris_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 It's a great little cab but it's a little bit boxy sounding to my ears with double bass, it didn't give me gas in the same way the Tricky Audio ones did, if they were more mainstream available off the shelf we'd see a lot more of those at gigs imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Forrer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I had two Barefaced One10 cabs, but wasn't fully satisfied. Sold them and now have a Gen3 Barefaced Super Midget. This is a fabulous cabinet. I also have a Greenboy 12/6 cab (like the Tricky ones) but the Super Midget has more detail in the sound, and is smaller and lighter . The One 10s are coloured, the SM is transparent. What you put in is what you get out. If you power with GK you get a coloured sound. If you power with Acoustic Image you get transparent sound. It depends on what you want to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 [quote name='Marty Forrer' timestamp='1504086979' post='3362537'] It depends on what you want to hear. [/quote] You've hit the nail on the head there! I found my Gen 1 Midget T was a bit too transparent and light at the bottom end. From what I can gather, the latest Midget with the current 12" driver is still transparent but more substantial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Forrer Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 My Super Midget has so much bass response I run the bass knob flat or even rolled back a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrybgoode Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1503565793' post='3359153'] There are always options. Barefaced would certainly be a good choice and easily replace your GK. They have a 1 month trial period after which you can send the cab back. IMO if the One10 doesn't work then the SM will. [/quote] Totally quote, if I might add I think this can be applied also the other way around... If the SM doesn't work for you then the One10 will! I'm an absolute “transparent sound” nerd (always been using Euphonic Audio cabs and Acoustic Image heads), but when I switched to Barefaced I just fell in love with the 10 cabinets. I bought a SM and then sold it to my teacher. Looking to add a second One10 to my minirig of doom powered by the Quilter Bass Block!!! (amazing combo Quilter + One10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 [quote name='harrybgoode' timestamp='1506164100' post='3376792'] (amazing combo Quilter + One10) [/quote] Mine is Eden WTX-264 (small, transparent and cheap as chips!!) + One10. Hey, just thought about the new TE 200w Elf... now that WOULD be minimalist!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 [quote name='giamma' timestamp='1503563629' post='3359116'] Seems that the most of you agreed with the fact that the sound isn't full range. I've been playing with GK mbx since now and the portability is really unbeatable..I was looking for something of the same size/weight but with a more complex tone..seems I'm looking for something that simply doesn't exist [/quote] Reading this thread again. . . . Is the MBX a full range cab? It's a good cab but it's a 112 shoe horned into a box that's really only big enough for a much smaller speaker and way too small to let a 12 breath and develop a full sound. I used an MBX but only with an MB150S and playing with an acoustic guitarist. I'd put my One10 and TH500 up against that rig any day. It seems there are DB players that love the One10 and those that love the slightly larger SM. As Alex says, the bigger cab will usually sound better but I would expect either of those cabs to be better than a lone MBX on a gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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