Conan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1506587671' post='3379688']I'm a MASSIVE fan. [/quote] Maybe, but I'm a [i][b][size=8]bigger[/size][/b][/i] fan than you... Edited September 28, 2017 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1506588313' post='3379694'] Maybe, but I'm a [i][b][size=8]bigger[/size][/b][/i] fan than you... [/quote] No. I'm a [i][b][size=10]bigger[/size][/b][/i] fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1506587671' post='3379688'] That pretty much sums it up for me. The songs, arrangements and production get weaker, and Neil's lyrics start to suck a bit. (And I'm a MASSIVE fan.) [/quote]I have to agree with the production comment, it became just so 'dense'. Still, there are some real gems amongst the also rans on those albums; Far Cry still does it for me every time I hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1506588932' post='3379703'] No. I'm a [i][b]bigger[/b][/i] fan. [/quote] Drat. That didn't work. But the writing is SO HUGE our tiny human minds can't comprehend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1506589088' post='3379706'] Drat. That didn't work. But the writing is SO HUGE our tiny human minds can't comprehend it. [/quote] Now that sounds like a Neil Peart lyric ca. 1977... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) [quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1506589028' post='3379704'] I have to agree with the production comment, it became just so 'dense'. Still, there are some real gems amongst the also rans on those albums [/quote] The remix of Vapour Trails is so much better than the original. I used to really dislike that album, but the remixed version revealed the quality in a lot of those songs. Well worth a few quid on Amazon if you don't have it (the album that is, not the cash!). [url="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vapor-Trails-Remixed-Rush/dp/B00E9P959O/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1506590042&sr=1-1&keywords=rush+vapour+trails"]http://www.amazon.c...h+vapour+trails[/url] Now I just wish they'd to the same with Snakes and Arrows and (particularly) Clockwork Angels... Edited September 28, 2017 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1506590019' post='3379719'] The remix of Vapour Trails is so much better than the original. I used to really dislike that album, but the remixed version revealed the quality in a lot of those songs. Well worth a few quid on Amazon if you don't have it. [url="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vapor-Trails-Remixed-Rush/dp/B00E9P959O/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1506590042&sr=1-1&keywords=rush+vapour+trails"]http://www.amazon.c...h+vapour+trails[/url] Now I just wish they'd to the same with Snakes and Arrows and (particularly) Clockwork Angels... [/quote] Yep - the VT remix is a million times better. I don't get the adulation for Clockwork Angels. There's a few good tunes on it, but the arrangements are generic RAWK, and the production is lifeless. Where are the great performances? The real standout instrumental breaks? Maybe they're buried under the kitchen sink, but I don't hear any. IMO Rush's best tunes were written and refined when they were working as a band, not when they're - literally - being conducted by the producer. Rant over :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vantagepointrocks Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1506590961' post='3379728'] Yep - the VT remix is a million times better. I don't get the adulation for Clockwork Angels. There's a few good tunes on it, but the arrangements are generic RAWK, and the production is lifeless. Where are the great performances? The real standout instrumental breaks? Maybe they're buried under the kitchen sink, but I don't hear any. IMO Rush's best tunes were written and refined when they were working as a band, not when they're - literally - being conducted by the producer. Rant over :-) [/quote] For me the last two albums have one memorable track each, Headlong Flight & Far Cry, the rest does suffer somewhat from, as has been said, very dense production, and a lack of real melodic moments. My favourite period of Rush though is the 80s, I do love the keyboard infused albums, Power Windows I find faultless. I'm ashamed to say that I've never got around to seeing the documentary on the R40 DVD, but, Beyond the Lighted stage is great, have watched it many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) [quote name='vantagepointrocks' timestamp='1506596756' post='3379783'] Beyond the Lighted stage is great, have watched it many times. [/quote] Me too. It's one of my favourite Friday night watches (assuming there is nothing good on BBC4... ). Having re-read that, I need to get out gigging more again!! Edited September 28, 2017 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1506598459' post='3379814'] Having said that, I haven't listened to it as a whole album for years, probably over 10. Might give it another go. [/quote] Word to the wise: You might want to consider skipping "I think I'm going bald" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1506601382' post='3379846'] Word to the wise: You might want to consider skipping "I think I'm going bald" [/quote] Funnily enough, the last time I listened to that I probably had hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Very inspirational documentary. Sort of reminded me my youth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoombung Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I don't get this band. His voice sounds like a strangled cat, they look like dorks, they write streams of hippy goblin nonsense land there's slathers of horrible, tuneless, metal guitar over everything. Mysteriously, all the commenters reckon they're musical geniuses. On the plus side they come across as nice fellas - but this rockumentary is dull as ditch water for all but die-hard fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) [quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1506613153' post='3379960'] I don't get this band. His voice sounds like a strangled cat, they look like dorks, they write streams of hippy goblin nonsense land there's slathers of horrible, tuneless, metal guitar over everything. Mysteriously, all the commenters reckon they're musical geniuses. [/quote] Was the same ever said about Stump? Funnily enough, many Rush fans share this impression of them Edited September 29, 2017 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 [quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1506613153' post='3379960'] I don't get this band. His voice sounds like a strangled cat, they look like dorks, they write streams of hippy goblin nonsense land there's slathers of horrible, tuneless, metal guitar over everything. Mysteriously, all the commenters reckon they're musical geniuses. On the plus side they come across as nice fellas - but this rockumentary is dull as ditch water for all but die-hard fans. [/quote] As I said in the OP, I don't like Rush's music, and the documentary didn't change that, but they came across as the polar opposite of the willy waving, egotist in- fighting nonsense of the bands who's music I actually like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 [quote name='oldslapper' timestamp='1506182240' post='3376948'] Haha...i couldn't tell the difference in tone between his jazz & his ric tbh. [/quote] And try to hear any difference when he was playing a Wal. :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 [quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1506613153' post='3379960'] I don't get this band. His voice sounds like a strangled cat, they look like dorks, they write streams of hippy goblin nonsense land there's slathers of horrible, tuneless, metal guitar over everything. Mysteriously, all the commenters reckon they're musical geniuses. On the plus side they come across as nice fellas - but this rockumentary is dull as ditch water for all but die-hard fans. [/quote] They're pros that cane up with something different at the right time. They "made it", which only happens to a handful of bands. And this is coming from someone who knows next to nothing about Rush. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzbass Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 [quote name='Painy' timestamp='1506253692' post='3377301'] Added to my watch list. Just have to wait for Mrs Painy to have a night out now so I can watch it in peace . [/quote] buy her a ticket for a chick flick what the heck,she's your wife, throw in popcorn too, don't wanna look cheap hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethFlatlands Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I'm a casual fan, got a couple of albums which I like but no urge to work my way through the back catalogue. The documentary was interesting but not very revealing. They're all too nice! I'm always in awe of the musicianship, no idea how Geddy plays bass so well and sings. It's made me want to practice to get be able to play faster for rockier stuff we do, preferably with my Jazz and a nice burpy tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 [quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1506844858' post='3381399'] buy her a ticket for a chick flick what the heck,she's your wife, throw in popcorn too, don't wanna look cheap hehe [/quote] Finally got around to watching it last night. Unfortunately my little boy isn't feeling very well at the moment and wasn't sleeping so I volunteered to sit up with him while my wife got some sleep and used the time to watch this undisturbed. I really enjoyed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 [quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1506613153' post='3379960'] I don't get this band. His voice sounds like a strangled cat, they look like dorks, they write streams of hippy goblin nonsense land there's slathers of horrible, tuneless, metal guitar over everything. Mysteriously, all the commenters reckon they're musical geniuses. On the plus side they come across as nice fellas - but this rockumentary is dull as ditch water for all but die-hard fans. [/quote] In your opinion. It would be a dull world if we all liked the same things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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