Wiggybass Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I notice that Bass Direct are no longer listing Bergantino on their website and Berg' themselves invite UK customers to contact them for direct sales (page [url="http://bergantino.com/authorized-dealers/"]HERE[/url]). Wonder what happened there? Just hope I don't need support any time soon for my cabs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 [quote name='Wiggybass' timestamp='1506333443' post='3377916'] I notice that Bass Direct are no longer listing Bergantino on their website and Berg' themselves invite UK customers to contact them for direct sales (page [url="http://bergantino.com/authorized-dealers/"]HERE[/url]). Wonder what happened there? [b]Just hope I don't need support any time soon for my cabs...[/b] [/quote] I've always had super fast responses from Bergantino, often from Jim himself. So, despite the news I'd say it was business as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I wonder why it has gone this way? It must be very expensive to import one or two products as a consumer now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Are they pricing themselves out of the market ? Vanderkley seem to have become the popular choice from Bass Direct. I've had 2 AE112 cabs and altho they were fantastic cabs they just didn't give me the sound i was looking for. I also managed to get the HT322 cab and it was by far the best cab i've ever played thru for any style of music. I think that's because i prefer normal solid, heavy speakers in my cabs. Yes it is heavy but no more than any standard 6x10 cab i've lifted. The big difference is they are so well built. The quality of materials is 2nd to none. I have an Orange rig but its nowhere near as well built as the Berg HT322. Dave Edited September 25, 2017 by dmccombe7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Oooo now that's interesting. I love my NV610 but I keep meaning to take it out of the cupboard and list it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggybass Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 I suspect that Berg in the US are using that instruction on their website as an interim measure until a new UK representative is appointed - it's possible to bring pretty much anything in from the US if you have the time and money but it's a real faff and the shipping costs could be horrendous. It would be a great pity IMO if Berg did not have a proper dealer or distributor here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 IIRC Mark has stopped ordering Lull basses too. Maybe with the exchange rate issues it's just not worth bringing them in anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggybass Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Having run an international distributor network for a UK-based electronics manufacturer for several years, I can say with confidence that there are at least two sides to this story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Maybe Mark could offer some clarification if he's still on BC. I know he used to reply to some posts. Pretty sure he has genuine reasons for moving to other cab manufacturers. Profit ? Value for Money ? Supply of products ? Exchange rates ? Could be a number of things. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@23 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think it's VERY expensive to import from the US now. I wanted to buy a Saodwsky hard case from N.Y, it was calculated by size rather than weight, and with tax and fees was going to cost me about $650. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 [quote name='M@23' timestamp='1506348576' post='3378081'] I think it's VERY expensive to import from the US now. I wanted to buy a Saodwsky hard case from N.Y, it was calculated by size rather than weight, and with tax and fees was going to cost me about $650. [/quote] OUCH !!! Just get a custom case made in UK circa £200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggybass Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1506347802' post='3378069'] Maybe Mark could offer some clarification if he's still on BC. I know he used to reply to some posts. Pretty sure he has genuine reasons for moving to other cab manufacturers. Profit ? Value for Money ? Supply of products ? Exchange rates ? Could be a number of things. Dave [/quote] Indeed it could and to be fair to him it's probably none of my / our business. My concern arises mainly from the fact that I am dedicated Berg user with three cabs that get gigged a lot and not having any kind of support domestically makes me a bit nervous, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) I would imagine you certainly do have support in the UK. Either an ongoing support from BD, if you bought your cabs there or from Bergantino themselves. Call the Berg dealership directly and find out the answers to your questions. Edited September 26, 2017 by chris_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 [quote name='Wiggybass' timestamp='1506428971' post='3378641'] Indeed it could and to be fair to him it's probably none of my / our business. My concern arises mainly from the fact that I am dedicated Berg user with three cabs that get gigged a lot and not having any kind of support domestically makes me a bit nervous, that's all. [/quote] Its a Berg cab. What can go wrong ? Well built solid cabs with great speakers. Unless you really are over-driving them to destruction which i doubt as most people that buy Berg cabs tend to look after their gear. The cross-overs if fitted should be repairable by any decent electronics repairer. Same with the plugs and sockets. Not sure why you're worrying yourself so much. ? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggybass Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1506430743' post='3378665'] I would imagine you certainly do have support in the UK. Either an ongoing support from BD, if you bought your cabs there or from Bergantino themselves. Call the Berg dealership directly and find out the answers to your questions. [/quote] Which one? You know of another in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggybass Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1506449465' post='3378863'] Its a Berg cab. What can go wrong ? Well built solid cabs with great speakers. Unless you really are over-driving them to destruction which i doubt as most people that buy Berg cabs tend to look after their gear. The cross-overs if fitted should be repairable by any decent electronics repairer. Same with the plugs and sockets. Not sure why you're worrying yourself so much. ? Dave [/quote] You're right, of course - but hey, everyone needs a hobby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 [quote name='Wiggybass' timestamp='1506458816' post='3378955'] Which one? You know of another in the UK? [/quote] It's on their web site!!! [list] [*][b]United Kingdom[/b] Contact Bergantino Audio for direct sales 00 1 512 873 8043 eMail: [email="[email protected]"]Bergantino Audio Direct Sales[/email] [/list] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1506459235' post='3378959'] It's on their web site!!! [list] [*][b]United Kingdom[/b] Contact Bergantino Audio for direct sales 00 1 512 873 8043 eMail: [email="[email protected]"]Bergantino Audio Direct Sales[/email] [/list] [/quote] Isn't that just the USA factory direct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 [quote name='Wiggybass' timestamp='1506458855' post='3378956'] You're right, of course - but hey, everyone needs a hobby! [/quote] Aye you've got me there Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggybass Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1506463721' post='3378996'] Isn't that just the USA factory direct? [/quote] Yup - in Maryland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergantino Audio Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) I just wanted to chime in on this topic to help eliminate any confusion. The short answer is yes, we are now selling factory direct into the UK marketplace. Mark at Bass Direct has been a great dealer for us over the years and a personal friend. Unfortunately, as has been mentioned in this thread, economic conditions, especially due to the dollar exchange, have changed quite dramatically over the last year or so, which doesn't present US based companies with a very competitive landscape to do business in. The two options for us was do nothing, which means no business, or offering our products direct to consumers to help make them more competitive for UK based players. You can contact us directly at [email protected] for more specific information and pricing on our products and also look out for future advertising on this forum better showcasing our products. For any and all other bass needs please keep reaching out to Mark at Bass Direct for best selection and service. Regards, Jim Bergantino Edited September 27, 2017 by Bergantino Audio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Yay for Brexit! (Sorry, but I had to do that!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Nice of Jim to put out such good information exchange rates will get worse me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 [quote name='afterimage' timestamp='1506538804' post='3379448'] Nice of Jim to put out such good information exchange rates will get worse me thinks [/quote] Yeah, once the UK retaliates over the 220% surcharge put on Bombardier Aircraft by the USA, a Berg cab will cost around £3k! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Jim Bergantino in the house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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