JohnDaBass Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Last Saturday played a wedding and had to use the feature band's backline of Aguilar TH500 into Barefaced G3 Super Compact. Really disappointed with tone and output with the rig while using my Fender P with DiMarzio Split P Pup.Volume was really poor overload light flashing even with Gain and Drive at zero (7 o clock) a really distorted sound when pushing the amp for more output to compete with drummer and 3 guitarists . If I knew what to expect I would have used my Mesa Subway D800 or my Fender Rumble 500 into my trusty Barefaced G3 Super Compact, both amps blow the TH 500 totally away. Always able to get my preferred tone with either the Mesa or the Rumble. The feature band's bassist was also the sound guy who appeared to use the TH 500 as on stage monitor with a great deal of DI PA support. Stand alone the Aguilar just didn't have what it takes and appeared to be a 'bit of a wimp ' Anyone else suffered a similar experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I've used a TH350 and couldn't believe how loud the thing could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 My frontline rig for the last two years has been a TH350 into either a Barefaced 610 or a Barefaced Compact+Midget. My volume & gain controls are routinely more-or-less straight up and supply with more than enough volume to sit alongside a pair of electric guitars and a drummer who can't even spell "restrained". From your description, I'd say you were borrowing a rig with some major issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNkShUi Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1507547926' post='3386178'] From your description, I'd say you were borrowing a rig with some major issues. [/quote] I've got to agree. I've used a TH500 for a bit, volume was never an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 [quote name='JohnDaBass' timestamp='1507545972' post='3386151'] ........Volume was really poor overload light flashing even with Gain and Drive at zero (7 o clock) a really distorted sound when pushing the amp for more output....... [/quote] I think this pretty much sums it up, serious issue with that amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) [quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1507558042' post='3386324'] I think this pretty much sums it up, serious issue with that amp. [/quote] Agree. I still use my TH 500 everyweek through a 4 ohms - 212 and the loud knob never goes much past 9'0'clock or just on with fairly loud drummer guitar and keys. Edited October 9, 2017 by Highfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyboro Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I use exactly that set-up and a Precision and have no problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I used to use a GK2001RB as my main amp until I got a TH500 as back up, after using it once it's now my main amp. Sound is great and volume isn't an issue against a mental drummer and loud guitarist. Never past 9-10 o clock through a Barefaced Big Twin T. The GK is now up for sale! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Issues with the specific amp methinks. I`ve had a couple of TH500s (and TH350s) and they`ve been incredibly loud litle amps. Also hooked up to Barefaced cabs, but played with passive basses, never came anywhere near to using them on full volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I seem to recall molan (of this parish) remarking that the TH500 used the same Class D power stage as the allegedly 900W Streamliner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1507566717' post='3386393'] I seem to recall molan (of this parish) remarking that the TH500 used the same Class D power stage as the allegedly 900W Streamliner! [/quote] The modules in pretty much all these amps are much of a muchness, just with tweaks here and there. I realised I didn't like the core behaviour, so I bailed on them a while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1507567999' post='3386398'] The modules in pretty much all these amps are much of a muchness, just with tweaks here and there. I realised I didn't like the core behaviour, so I bailed on them a while ago. [/quote] Really? You've not mentioned it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1507569396' post='3386411'] Really? You've not mentioned it [/quote] Oh, you hadn't heard? In that case I shall endeavour to mention it more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@23 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I didn't find it to be wimpy. Certainly a marmite sort of sound though. Also, I much preferred it with more vintage voiced cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1507566717' post='3386393'] I seem to recall molan (of this parish) remarking that the TH500 used the same Class D power stage as the allegedly 900W Streamliner! [/quote] That would explain the wimpiness of the Streamliner 600 I had, it probably had the same module as the TH350! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 [quote name='M@23' timestamp='1507575860' post='3386489'] I didn't find it to be wimpy. Certainly a marmite sort of sound though. Also, I much preferred it with more vintage voiced cabs. [/quote] I agree with this. I love the sound, but it doesn't work in my current band which calls for a brighter sound. But for playing blues etc with a P and flats, I have never heard a better amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) The TH500 is a very loud and fine amp. . . . well, my 2 have been fantastic through both a Berg CN212 and 1 or 2 Super Compacts and in several very loud bands. In the SRV band I'm usually loud enough to make the guitarist have to turn up. The TH500 is no wimp. Do you use pedals? Did you go through the PA like the main band did? If you didn't you're not comparing apples with apples. For me issues and problems with other people's gear usually comes down to not understanding the controls. Edit. Presumably if the main band bassist was the sound guy you sounded good out front? Edited October 9, 2017 by chris_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The overload light was flashing with gain set at zero? Did you have a pedal running into the effects return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) [quote name='ambient' timestamp='1507547796' post='3386175'] I've used a TH350 and couldn't believe how loud the thing could be. [/quote] Same here. I moved mine on after a few months, but not because it was in any way lacking in power, that wasn't the issue. And I agree with the comments about pairing it with the 'right' cab. Edited October 9, 2017 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I wonder if one of the problems here is model numbers. The marketers know we are bears of very little brains and will assume that W big number indicates the power. Is a TH500 louder than a Streamliner 900? An LM3 must be very quiet. As for the covert “all class d is rubbish” , the end of the world is nigh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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