Endbass Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]I'm looking for high quality preamp/DI in pedal form, based on the Neve 1073. Like the API Tranzformer LX pedal, but then the Neve version. I know about the JHS Colour Box, but I'm looking for something of higher quality. Does it exist? Or does anyone know someone who could build that for me?[/size][/font][/color] Quote
EBS_freak Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 [quote name='Endbass' timestamp='1509107586' post='3396674'] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]I'm looking for high quality preamp/DI in pedal form, based on the Neve 1073. Like the API Tranzformer LX pedal, but then the Neve version. I know about the JHS Colour Box, but I'm looking for something of higher quality. Does it exist? Or does anyone know someone who could build that for me?[/font][/color] [/quote] You could try something along this line - http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/effects/qstrip.html More akin to a channel strip than your standard fixed frequency, fixed q pedals. Quote
lee650 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Not a pedal i know, but the Warwick Hellborg preamp is along those lines! ! Id be first in the queue for a pedal version of one of those Edited October 27, 2017 by lee650 Quote
roman_sub Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I think it’s worth separating the 1073 into the preamp and Eq sections for this purpose... a lot of the phatness and depth comes from the preamp and its transformers. The eq curves are superbly chosen and very musical... but if you’re mainly after a coloured DI without the eq, you may consider something like a BAE dmp unit (esp with Bootsy mod) - but not cheap. Reducing it into a pedal format is somewhat self defeating as an exercise - as ultimately you want the quality capacitors and large transformers... cheapest would be a GAP pre73, though not a pedal, and no Eq. As much as I love API gear I can see the tranzformer being dropped soonish - imo the cost and subtlety of such designs are too niche... That said if price is no object, I’d go with the BAE for live stuff and leave Eq in the hands of the sound guy Quote
EBS_freak Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Just thought, you could get a 500 host such as this - http://www.soundskulptor.com/uk/501.html and stick a genuine 1073 in it. A simple a/b(/y) switch in front of it could route appropriately. If you put it sideways on your board with a switch on top, that may work. Quote
SimonEdward Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 [quote name='roman_sub' timestamp='1509110932' post='3396716'] I think it's worth separating the 1073 into the preamp and Eq sections for this purpose... a lot of the phatness and depth comes from the preamp and its transformers. The eq curves are superbly chosen and very musical... but if you're mainly after a coloured DI without the eq, you may consider something like a BAE dmp unit (esp with Bootsy mod) - but not cheap. Reducing it into a pedal format is somewhat self defeating as an exercise - as ultimately you want the quality capacitors and large transformers... cheapest would be a GAP pre73, though not a pedal, and no Eq. As much as I love API gear I can see the tranzformer being dropped soonish - imo the cost and subtlety of such designs are too niche... That said if price is no object, I'd go with the BAE for live stuff and leave Eq in the hands of the sound guy [/quote] Just in case you haven't seen this, here is a link to a review of the BAE 1073 DMP from 2012 >> [url="https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/bae-1073-dmp"]https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/bae-1073-dmp[/url] I've seen these for sale on-line at [color=#D91E1E][size=1]£1,260.00 [/size][/color][color=#D91E1E]inc VAT[/color] Quote
krispn Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 As said it’s the transformers and eq points which are the core Neve sound. The BAE DMP would do a great job in terms of nailing the TX’ers but you may need something like the q strip for the eq front end. Quote
Endbass Posted October 28, 2017 Author Posted October 28, 2017 Thanks guys for all the suggestions!! Some people at Talkbass suggested the Broughton Audio Studio One. I'm afraid I'd have to import one from the US if I'd want one, but it looks like a good option too. [quote name='roman_sub' timestamp='1509110932' post='3396716'] I think it's worth separating the 1073 into the preamp and Eq sections for this purpose... a lot of the phatness and depth comes from the preamp and its transformers. The eq curves are superbly chosen and very musical... but if you're mainly after a coloured DI without the eq, you may consider something like a BAE dmp unit (esp with Bootsy mod) - but not cheap. Reducing it into a pedal format is somewhat self defeating as an exercise - as ultimately you want the quality capacitors and large transformers... cheapest would be a GAP pre73, though not a pedal, and no Eq. As much as I love API gear I can see the tranzformer being dropped soonish - imo the cost and subtlety of such designs are too niche... That said if price is no object, I'd go with the BAE for live stuff and leave Eq in the hands of the sound guy [/quote] This would be the proper thing to do, but I'm afraid that a bit over my budget. I was thinking to spend £500-£750. Good suggestion though. I wouldn't be surprised if the API would be dropped soon too, but it doesn't really make sense to me why it's not popular. There are not many similar preamps like the API on the market either. But with so many working bassists doing in ear gigs these days there should be a huge potential market for portable high quality preamps with decent EQ and DI. In my opinion it makes more sense to spend money on something like this than on a huge amp. Why is that you think? Quote
Owen Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 I cannot speak for the Neve 1073-ness of it at all. I imagine not. However I have found the Grace Felix pedal to be very fine indeed with my DB. The Hellborg preamps occasionally come up for really not much money and fitting all that gubbins into a pedal is going to be tricky indeed. Quote
bassmayhem Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 [quote name='Endbass' timestamp='1509107586' post='3396674'] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]I'm looking for high quality preamp/DI in pedal form, based on the Neve 1073. Like the API Tranzformer LX pedal, but then the Neve version. I know about the JHS Colour Box, but I'm looking for something of higher quality. Does it exist? Or does anyone know someone who could build that for me?[/font][/color] [/quote] I've had the JHS Colour Box: it was a big disappointment. You could get things dirty, but not clean. I wouldn't call it a preamp, just a kind of overdrive/distortion unit. I gave it away... Quote
Bigwan Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Probably not what the OP is looking for, but for general info the Way Huge Pork Loin's clean channel is based on the Neve 1073... Quote
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