scrumpymike Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Both equally superb in slightly different ways but I want to stay faithful to the wood's 'natural' state. My wood-cutter mate Merv told me how they used to wipe off the stumps of the trees they'd felled while they were still wet with the rising sap. He reckoned they looked like shiny, natural wood table-tops that had been freshly wax-polished and laid out on the ground. That's the effect I'm after - over to you Andy Edited December 13, 2017 by scrumpymike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, scrumpymike said: Both equally superb in slightly different ways but I want to stay faithful to the wood's 'natural' state. My wood-cutter mate Merv told me how they used to wipe off the stumps of the trees they'd felled while they were still wet with the rising sap. He reckoned they looked like shiny, natural wood table-tops that had been freshly wax-polished and laid out on the ground. That's the effect I'm after - over to you Andy I love walnut in any finish or guise However, in real life, it's the Osmo treated version that has the warmth and tone of the original untreated, air-exposed wood: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 " However, in real life, it's the Osmo treated version that has the warmth and tone of the original untreated, air-exposed wood." Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I'm not sure which I prefer - Mike must be chuffed to have the choice.... Good work Andy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Osmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 The headstock plate is too thin to attempt MoP inlays, but Mike and I thought it might be fun to be able to see at least a little of the original Rascal colour : Once the edges have been sanded to match exactly the original headstock, all it will need is some strips of thin double-sided tape to fully secure it - the bushes and string tree will do the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Works a treat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 7 hours ago, SpondonBassed said: Osmo. Andy - the 'Wizard of Osmo' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 And in the meantime, I'm applying some Osmo Polyx 3032 satin on top of the 3044 so that we retain the colour but get a nice semi-gloss. I'm doing a bit of an experiment with the way of applying the Osmo. If it works I'll post the photos....and if it doesn't, I'll quietly sand it off and do it the way the instructions say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, scrumpymike said: Andy - the 'Wizard of Osmo' Which will break first - Andy or the Osmo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Andyjr1515 said: Which will break first - Andy or the Osmo... Well....so far, I think the Osmo is going to blink first. But I'd better wait until the morning when it will be fully dry before I do my victory lap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si600 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 18 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: Well....so far, I think the Osmo is going to blink first. But I'd better wait until the morning when it will be fully dry before I do my victory lap It's morning. Just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 48 minutes ago, Si600 said: It's morning. Just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Si600 said: It's morning. Just sayin' I'm a genius. Just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naxos10 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 You are right Andy - your a genius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 What Naxos said...I knew anyway.. That Satin finish is amazing - really brings the grain to life. Mike must be suffering while he's waiting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 26 minutes ago, naxos10 said: You are right Andy - your a genius Well - Osmo might have something to do with it too ...s'pose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 So what was my experiment? It was seeing if something I did on Mick's Psilos bass in matt, would work on satin. The above is halfway through the process but I'm confident it's working. On Mick's Psilos, I experimented whether you could do the same 'slurry and buff' approach with Osmo as you can with Tru-oil. And the answer was that you certainly could. Using the same approach as Tru-oil, the process eded up as a self-grainfilling, super silky finish. So what's the issue with higher gloss levels? Well my problem is always about trying to keep the coating thin but it actually levelling properly without leaving brushmarks or cloth-wipe ripples. I knew I wasn't going to be able to buff satin while wet - because the additional applications tend to soften the earlier coats and that affects the gloss level - but I could do a variation. So basically, what I have done so far is: Apply a decent coat with a soft brush Slurry with 400 grit wet and dry, working with the grain Wipe off with (industrial - cheaper and bigger rolls) kitchen roll Let dry Repeat Repeat, but using 800 grit The results are very encouraging with the shine coming through but the thin-coat-organic-silky feel retained Tomorrow, I will repeat, using 1500 or 2000 grit. It shouldn't need any more. For my 'piccolo-bass turned electric' project that I'm doing for myself, I'm going to see if I can get it to work with full gloss. I've tried Osmo full gloss once before and had a few issues, but the above approach might just work. Worth trying... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Yesssss - that's it, that's EXACTLY IT!! And it's just dark enough to contrast well with the bright hardware. 'Wizard of Osmo' it is then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 hour ago, TheGreek said: What Naxos said...I knew anyway.. That Satin finish is amazing - really brings the grain to life. Mike must be suffering while he's waiting... Well worth the wait, as you already know Mick . It's like a gripping serial on the telly - you can't wait for the next installment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Just noticed - without the controls fitted my bass has got a face like this one: I really need to get out more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 Onto the headstock plate. Most important lesson learned during my early veneering work - always know where the holes are before you cover them up! String tree hole drilled and thin double sided tape applied: Not perfect, but fit for purpose as a fully reversible mod: The (probably final) additional coat of the Osmo worked well: And full view: Rear view - the hatches have still got to have the edges tidied up but they seat nicely and almost certainly will be fine with magnetic catches: We are moving to machine screws (like Wal) rather than the standard Fender screws. Got some nice stainless allen key machine screws for it but the supplier sent the wrong type of captive nuts - replacements should be with me Monday. Still to do: Tidy up the rear hatch edges Install neck captive nuts Fit magnetic catches Copper-foil shield control chamber Install pickups, switch and pots Install strap buttons Install bridge Set up That's not too bad - and I'm really pleased how this is starting to look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 "That's not too bad - and I'm really pleased how this is starting to look " You and me both bro' (not forgetting Mrs. Scrumpy, who loves it to bits). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 That's looking lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, SpondonBassed said: That's looking lovely. Thanks, John. Waiting for some replacement captive screws that were wrongly sent and, irritatingly haven't arrived yet to then finish it off. I've still got a few other jobs on it which I will hopefully clear over the next two or three days in between the 'Christmas preparation help' task list (which is quite a long list!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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