Kev Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Again on cost, preamp aside, the standard uses roasted birdseye maple as a fretboard, which must cost more than standard ebony. Other than the brown stain, those represent the extent of the differences, so the prices should be very close if not the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kev said: Again on cost, preamp aside, the standard uses roasted birdseye maple as a fretboard, which must cost more than standard ebony. Other than the brown stain, those represent the extent of the differences, so the prices should be very close if not the same? We shall see, not really too much point speculating at the moment, they may be the same, the prog may be more, we will find out in a couple of weeks. It does depend on the quality of the ebony and maple, ebony without lighter streaks has gone up a large amount in the last few years due to logging laws. Tbh I'm not bothered, if that neck profile works as well on the bass as the guitar version it will be money well spent in my eyes. hopefully there won't be too much between them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 On 10/01/2019 at 11:34, winterfire666 said: We shall see, not really too much point speculating at the moment Agreed... so how much do you think they'll be... without speculating of course..? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 12/01/2019 at 20:50, visog said: Agreed... so how much do you think they'll be... without speculating of course..? Hopefully within the budget I agreed with my wife haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 New video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) That Standard is a good looking bass for sure, very keen to know the price on these to say whether its a no go or not. Edited January 24, 2019 by Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) So, £3k. At least the prog bass is cheaper after all. Weakest at least ever though. I’m VERY surprised, incredibly bold to go in at such a high price for a first stab at building a bass. Crazy. Edited January 23, 2019 by Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) ....and it’s built in Indonesia?!!! That puts it in direct competition with the Dingwall Combustion/NG range, an established market leading instrument, and it costs double... Edited January 23, 2019 by Kev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Kev said: So, £3k. At least the prog bass is cheaper after all. Weakest at least ever though. I’m VERY surprised, incredibly bold to go in at such a high price for a first stab at building a bass. Crazy. Not seen that yet, Jesus 3k! Seems a bit steep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Kev said: ....and it’s built in Indonesia?!!! That puts it in direct competition with the Dingwall Combustion/NG range, an established market leading instrument, and it costs double... Wow, I didn't realise that! I thought at the end of the day, they can charge what they want, kind of similar business model to Fodera given the interest that's crept up, however if they're being made "overseas" and probably quite cheaply, I feel that the price tag is a bit nuts! On a side note, I'm not really convinced their guitar design translates well to a bigger instrument, looks a little off to me, and its a shame they didn't come up with something unique for their bass especially given how long this was in development. Personal taste of course, so please take it as such. Those out there who were mad keen on getting one, is that still the case now it's over £3k and made in Indonesia? I appreciate they're offering something pretty special if that's the flavour of special you like. Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, eude said: Those out there who were mad keen on getting one, is that still the case now it's over £3k and made in Indonesia? I appreciate they're offering something pretty special if that's the flavour of special you like. I was intending to jump in and just get one based on my experience with the guitars (I would never go back to a traditionaldesign ) but at 3k I need to play it first before shelling out that much. I want to make sure the benefits translate to a bigger instrument, I'm still very keen , if it works as well I think it will be worth the money in the long run. The figure in my head was 2.5k max but I was hoping it might be a little less. I need to get my hands on one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I was very interested in one until seeing £3k. At that price we are well into secondhand Canadian Dingwall territory and twice what a Combustion costs. It would have to be the last bass I ever need at that price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, therealting said: I was very interested in one until seeing £3k. At that price we are well into secondhand Canadian Dingwall territory and twice what a Combustion costs. It would have to be the last bass I ever need at that price! Secondhand Canadian Dingwall? http://bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/ABZ4_Blue.html Just short of £1k change... Edited January 24, 2019 by Kev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I'm not surprised at the price. I also don't care that it's made in Indonesia. As Ibanez and others have proved location is no longer a good indicator of quality. Most of the time it's all the same model CNC machines, it's just the local over-heads that are lower. That being said, £3K is outside of what I'm happy to spend on a new bass so I doubt very much I'll be having one, despite the really low weight being a massive appeal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, fretmeister said: I'm not surprised at the price. I also don't care that it's made in Indonesia. As Ibanez and others have proved location is no longer a good indicator of quality. Most of the time it's all the same model CNC machines, it's just the local over-heads that are lower. That being said, £3K is outside of what I'm happy to spend on a new bass so I doubt very much I'll be having one, despite the really low weight being a massive appeal to me. The difference is between a production line and team-built custom shop vibe, I guess. Not sure which this would be for Strandberg, hopefully the latter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Kev said: Secondhand Canadian Dingwall? http://bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/ABZ4_Blue.html Just short of £1k change... Admittedly a few years ago, but I paid around £3k total for these two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, fretmeister said: I'm not surprised at the price. I also don't care that it's made in Indonesia. As Ibanez and others have proved location is no longer a good indicator of quality. Most of the time it's all the same model CNC machines, it's just the local over-heads that are lower. That being said, £3K is outside of what I'm happy to spend on a new bass so I doubt very much I'll be having one, despite the really low weight being a massive appeal to me. I couldn’t care less where it is built if the quality is there. Problem is, comparing how much it costs to build instruments in Indonesia vs Canada/UK/US and western countries in general, it’s so very, very expensive. And that’s before you simply compare it to their guitar costs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 £3k for an off-shored manufacture - ok... * walks towards door, then leaves shop..* So all the Math-proggers OCDing for the slant frets and wonky neck will sell a kidney... Bet the multi-scale Ibby's do 95% of the job at 30% of the price.. The 5% being the aesthetics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, visog said: £3k for an off-shored manufacture - ok... * walks towards door, then leaves shop..* So all the Math-proggers OCDing for the slant frets and wonky neck will sell a kidney... Bet the multi-scale Ibby's do 95% of the job at 30% of the price.. The 5% being the aesthetics... Apart from the really low weight anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 21 hours ago, visog said: Bet the multi-scale Ibby's do 95% of the job at 30% of the price.. The 5% being the aesthetics... It's not about the multiscale or asthetics for me, I can take em or leave em generally, it's all about that neck profile. It's a different beast entirely if it works as it does on guitar. I'm not interested in any other basses, I've already got the traditional bass covered. I don't think you can directly compare one of these with anything else on the market. That being said they are still too bloody expensive lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMG456 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 25/01/2019 at 16:38, winterfire666 said: I'm not interested in any other basses, I've already got the traditional bass covered. I don't think you can directly compare one of these with anything else on the market. Of course you can - it's a bass! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Did anyone here try it at NAMM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 There's a review of the Prog model up on BassTheWorld.com's YouTube channel >> If I'm honest, the bass sounds a little muddy tone wise to me expect when it's all DarkGlassie on the first section and during the tapping example, I guess I expected a much brighter sound from such a modern looking bass? It might be the BigRig pickups, I have heard a few folks find them a little muffled but they are meant to be a hum cancelling homage to the 51P... Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3K!?!??! No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 hours ago, eude said: sounds a little muddy tone wise to me expect when it's all DarkGlassie on the first section and during the tapping example, I guess I expected a much brighter sound from such a modern looking bass? i agree im not blown away, i expected a little more zing in the top end, be nice to see how the classic compares tonally, still wanna try one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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