Jazzjames Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 So i spotted this on twitter earlier today. Look at the three different SL speakers there. We know two of them. What’s the one on the right? Quote
M@23 Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Vertical 212, by the looks... Edit, beaten by @scalpy!! Edited December 23, 2017 by M@23 Quote
CameronJ Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 Definitely a vertical 212. It ain’t gonna be cheap though! 😖 Quote
Jazzjames Posted January 3, 2018 Author Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) And there’s the confirmation. Yours for 4 digits in the UK. http://www.bassplayer.com/amps/1166/aguilar-amplification-announces-the-sl-212-bass-cabinet/64551#.WkzwHBCtR4Q.twitter Edited January 3, 2018 by Jazzjames Quote
CameronJ Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 Dare I say it - still much better value than the Darkglass cabs? Quote
Cuzzie Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Yep Cam, you said it! still no reports of a DG cab out in the wild yet, but this Aggie looks nice Quote
Painy Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Available in "Dorian Grey" if you fancy it. Quote
CameronJ Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Ooh very nice. One of these cabs in Aggy’s deep burgundy wine finish would look amazing. Quote
Al Krow Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Love the design. At 45lbs only 5lbs heavier than a BF Super T. But for me the key difference / deal breaker is that the Aggie only handles 500W RMS whereas the BF ST can manage 1200W. Quote
loudandclear Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Wow , these look fantastic , really keen to try one of these, not cheap but I bet they have tone to die for. Quote
discreet Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Painy said: Available in "Dorian Grey" if you fancy it. I've got a painting of it in my attic... Wait, what?? 20kg?? Bloody hell, I thought it was supposed to be lightweight?? 1 Quote
wateroftyne Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 They're kinda like more expensive TKS S212's :-) 2 Quote
chris_b Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, discreet said: Wait, what?? 20kg?? Bloody hell, I thought it was supposed to be lightweight?? That's the ball-park for mainstream and unbraced cabs. The trade off between weight and cost of manufacture gets a 212 to the mid 40lbs. I imagine it will sound pretty good. All Aguilar gear does. Edited January 4, 2018 by chris_b Quote
discreet Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, chris_b said: That's the ball-park for mainstream and unbraced cabs. Yes... I wasn't being entirely serious, as usual... you omitted my '' in your quote. Quote
chris_b Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 But I can assure you I was smiling when I typed it. 1 Quote
machinehead Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Al Krow said: Love the design. At 45lbs only 5lbs heavier than a BF Super T. But for me the key difference / deal breaker is that the Aggie only handles 500W RMS whereas the BF ST can manage 1200W. One of the important points is that (I believe) these cabs use Eminence Deltalite II 2512 drivers with a Vd of 255cc. So a total Vd of 510cc for the SL212 versus c.1100cc for the BF Super Twin or c.550cc for the BF Big Baby 2. Mind you, I owned a 212 cab with a pair of Deltalite II 2512 and it was still quite loud, but not that good in the lower frequencies. You pays yer money and makes yer choice. Frank. 1 Quote
CameronJ Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, wateroftyne said: They're kinda like more expensive TKS S212's :-) This. Hit the nail on the head! Quote
stevie Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Al Krow said: Love the design. At 45lbs only 5lbs heavier than a BF Super T. But for me the key difference / deal breaker is that the Aggie only handles 500W RMS whereas the BF ST can manage 1200W. I think you'll find the Barefaced power handling figure is not an "RMS" figure. Quote
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, machinehead said: One of the important points is that (I believe) these cabs use Eminence Deltalite II 2512 drivers with a Vd of 255cc. So a total Vd of 510cc for the SL212 versus c.1100cc for the BF Super Twin If it is 2512 loaded that means it will take two of the Aggies to equal the output of one BFST. I'd say that it probably is 2512 loaded, as a Kappalite based driver would be at least 450w each, and they wouldn't miss out on the opportunity to advertise the new 212 as 900w. Quote
stevie Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, machinehead said: One of the important points is that (I believe) these cabs use Eminence Deltalite II 2512 drivers with a Vd of 255cc. The press release says they are " custom-voiced woofers ". So they can claim any Vd they like. Quote
chris_b Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said: . . . a Kappalite based driver would be at least 450w each, and they wouldn't miss out on the opportunity to advertise the new 212 as 900w. I believe Aguilar used the same power module in the TH500 that other manufacturers used in their 900 watt rated amps. It seems to me that Aguilar under rates their products. 1 Quote
stevie Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 What is more likely is that other manufacturers exaggerate their specifications. That's why comparing specs of different amps or cabinets is fraught with problems, as I will now demonstrate. Quote
stevie Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, machinehead said: So a total Vd of 510cc for the SL212 versus c.1100cc for the BF Super Twin or c.550cc for the BF Big Baby 2. But the Aguilar has a sensitivity of 103dB compared with the 100dB of the Barefaced, which means that it only needs half the power to sound as loud. Quote
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