Trace Elliott ELF getting hot

[prowla]

It's got the power supply inside too, so things are well packed in there!

[nilebodgers]

The problem with new products like this is that it is almost impossible to tell if it was designed to run hot and remain within safe design parameters, or it was badly designed and will start to fail if run long and hard enough. Only time will tell.

We'll know in a year or so 🤔

[yorks5stringer]

The reason the amp is so small is so it fits the rear jean pocket of that model....whould people be buying it if it stuck out the top of some cargo pants?

[bazzbass]

as long as an amp is small enough to fit in a gig bag it's small enough. The elf is ridiculously small, but you are gonna sit it on top of a speaker cab which is much much bigger........the elf is unnecessarily tiny.

[burno70]

4 hours ago, bazzbass said:

as long as an amp is small enough to fit in a gig bag it's small enough. The elf is ridiculously small, but you are gonna sit it on top of a speaker cab which is much much bigger........the elf is unnecessarily tiny.

I don't agree Bazz, I think it's an excellent size for a back up amp. The smaller the better.

Whether it's reliable with the heat it generates is another issue however.

[Happy Jack]

I wonder how long that model would have kept it in her back pocket at 70 C ...

[prowla]

I've just joined the Elf club!

A good price on ebay, made even better by their 20% off code (PNY2018, use by 6 o'clock today)!

[Happy Jack]

What logo did it carry?

 

[Happy Jack]

And all joking aside, Prowla, excellent heads-up ... thanks. I bought one as well. 

[prowla]

6 minutes ago, Happy Jack said:

What logo did it carry?

 

Nashnull

[PaulWarning]

limited experience of class D amps, our Yamaha powered mixer is and I had a Fender Rumble 500 V3, both run very cool, indeed, I thought this was one of the advantages of class D's, looks like I was wrong

[tauzero]

On 26/12/2017 at 15:26, la bam said:

I, like many people, sold my superfly years ago because of the heat worry.

 

The later and rarer Superduperfly, aka Superfly 1000, had a fan fitted and was much cooler (I've had both, and like Bill, used them out of their pretty but heavy and heat-retaining outer casings). Perhaps putting a better fan into the ELF would improve the cooling.

[Treb]

13 hours ago, tauzero said:

 Perhaps putting a better fan into the ELF would improve the cooling.

There's not a lot of room left, the amp is crammed. There are some fuzzy pics of its guts, Google's your friend. A small sized amp appears to have been the major design philosophy. Hence no speakon and the butt-ugly hump.

 

 

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

4 hours ago, Treb said:

 A small sized amp appears to have been the major design philosophy.

This could be an example of because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. 

[fleabag]

Isn't the flavour of amps now to be the size of a ciggy pack, and weigh the same as a bedroom slipper ?

Supply and demand

[prowla]

7 minutes ago, fleabag said:

Isn't the flavour of amps now to be the size of a ciggy pack, and weigh the same as a bedroom slipper ?

Supply and demand

It's called progress.

[prowla]

9 minutes ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said:

This could be an example of because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. 

It seems to be OK.

[fleabag]

14 minutes ago, prowla said:

It's called progress.

Its called fashion

[Delberthot]

And it's the flavour of the month thing to have - a tiny amp that gets really hot with no speakon output, has a hump on the top and doesn't sound like a Trace Elliott

As a backup that you can stick in your cables bag it makes perfect sense to me but cabs can only physically get so small and I have one of the smallest so there seems to be little point of having it this size unless it's a backup to your main amp

[prowla]

1 minute ago, fleabag said:

Its called fashion

Well, I think it's a product which was waiting to be done.

I used to have a Burman valve amp in the 70s; it was a beast and weighed lawd knows now much.

I've now got a (possibly) more powerful one which will fit in my pocket.

It's never going to be the backine at Glastonbury, but then again I never am either.

For me it's a step towards making my living room tidier...

[fleabag]

Yup, good points, and i wouldn't want a Burman, but that is one extreme to another.

Compromises have to be made as you start miniaturising stuff, whether its amps or other things

[prowla]

1 minute ago, Delberthot said:

And it's the flavour of the month thing to have - a tiny amp that gets really hot with no speakon output, has a hump on the top and doesn't sound like a Trace Elliott

As a backup that you can stick in your cables bag it makes perfect sense to me but cabs can only physically get so small and I have one of the smallest so there seems to be little point of having it this size unless it's a backup to your main amp

Well, I first tried one at the Olympia show in March and I really liked it and pretty much knew I'd get one if the opportunity arose.

I then had a go on TheGreek's at the bass bash and I liked it.

I then saw one when I was killing time in Birminham before a gig last month, but they said it was £299 and it was just on closing time.

ebay had a 20% off offer earlier in the week, which took it to under £200, so I bought it.

I don't know if that's flavour of the month or what.

I've got a TE graphic amp and 1x15 & 2x10 cabs, so it kindof fits.

For me the Elf seems to be what it says on the tin.

[prowla]

5 minutes ago, fleabag said:

Yup, good points, and i wouldn't want a Burman, but that is one extreme to another.

Compromises have to be made as you start miniaturising stuff, whether its amps or other things

Sure - no doubting it's a compromise; I don't think anybody is saying otherwise.

(I used to have two Marshall 4x12s to go with that Burman too!)

[fleabag]

Nice.

So you got a workout on every gig  as well 

[prowla]

Just now, fleabag said:

Nice.

So you got a workout on every gig  as well 

I was fit as f*** back then!

With that and my bass in a flight case, every day was a workout.