Music stands - are they as common as I think?

[martthebass]

Just now, bassace said:

Last time I saw The Who, Pete Townshend was using an iPad on a mic stand. I think it was for chords but he should know them by now, shouldn’t he?

Pfffft....amateurs

[la bam]

Personally i really dont like them BUT in certain circumstances i fully inderstand them. 

I couldnt dep for love nor money (nowhere near good enough at that) so fully understand them being used for that.

Orchestras etc and backing bands - fair enough if theyre playing for other acts and support etc.

I do think theres better ways than a music stand with the perforated holes in the back with a big book on it that couldnt be anything else other than a music stand plonked in the middle of the stage area though. They could be more subtly done / disguised / hidden with a bit of creativity - especially now we have tablets and ipads etc.

Each to their own though.

[SteveK]

1 hour ago, stingrayPete1977 said:

... the middle aged rocker that declares the stands terrible because he has played for forty years without one, yeah and that was when the most recent song in your set was written! 

You've clearly Googled me  

"middle aged"?? You're too kind!

[chris_b]

Story so far. Music stands are "not good" but iPads are OK. The big acts have been using monitors for decades.

So if I had the latest technology or a stage crew running the monitoring systems I'd be accepted, but because I'm a poor, penniless, amnesiac Luddite I get told I'm uncool!!

[SteveK]

4 minutes ago, chris_b said:

.So if I had the latest technology or a stage crew running the monitoring systems I'd be accepted, 

Not by me, you wouldn't!

[kevham]

Our singer uses one.  Looks odd.  But no 'odder' than my lefty bass.

No one cares once the party gets going.

After my bum notes last night, I could probably do with getting a stand too....... ;-)

[lowdown]

2 minutes ago, kevham said:

 

After my bum notes last night, I could probably do with getting a stand too....... ;-)

Forget the stand, there is no entertainment value with it.

Instead, get a lighter and incorporate your bum notes into the stage act.

[stingrayPete1977]

Are there enough musicians as talented as SteveK to cover every band member in every band from the tickled trout to Wembley every day of the year?

[discreet]

I have to learn the songs. I can't have bits of paper, I lose them. If I had a music stand I'd fall over it.

[discreet]

29 minutes ago, stingrayPete1977 said:

Are there enough musicians as talented as SteveK to cover every band member in every band from the tickled trout to Wembley every day of the year?

I'm with SteveK in principle. But if I were a jazz guy I'd use a stand, if only to let the audience know that what I'm playing isn't just a load of random old crap I'm making up as I go along.

[stingrayPete1977]

1 minute ago, discreet said:

I have to learn the songs. I can't have bits of paper, I lose them. If I had a music stand I'd fall over it.

I've got to that age where I have to check ten times that I've actually put a bass in the van before setting off to each gig! 

[discreet]

3 minutes ago, stingrayPete1977 said:

I have to check ten times that I've actually put a bass in the van before setting off to each gig! 

I have to remember where I parked the van, first. Wait... I don't have a van.

[drTStingray]

One of their downsides, they're as effective as drumist's equipment for scratching instruments, invariable clang appallingly when you drop them, and are extremely useful for scratching the inside (or outside) of your car - or van if you're an SVT plus fridge user......

ive decided to learn my dep set for NYE properly and place cues on my iPhone for those little difficult moments - then I won't have to use the music stand. Just hope no one thinks I'm texting between songs if I have to refer to my 'notes'!!

[drTStingray]

2 hours ago, discreet said:

I'm with SteveK in principle. But if I were a jazz guy I'd use a stand

If I were a jazz guy id use a high stool (like Roger Whittaker and also The Shadows on their laid back instrumentals 😬 )

[Paul S]

2 hours ago, discreet said:

I'm with SteveK in principle. But if I were a jazz guy I'd use a stand, if only to let the audience know that what I'm playing isn't just a load of random old crap I'm making up as I go along.

 I thought that WAS what jazz was about?

[MB1]

3 hours ago, drTStingray said:

If I were a jazz guy id use a high stool (like Roger Whittaker and also The Shadows on their laid back instrumentals 😬 )

Roger Whittakers Stool ?....got any pics?

 

[SteveK]

5 hours ago, stingrayPete1977 said:

Are there enough musicians as talented as SteveK to cover every band member in every band from the tickled trout to Wembley every day of the year?

Why, thank you kind sir! Alas, the answer is clearly... no!

[SteveK]

5 hours ago, discreet said:

I'm with SteveK in principle. But if I were a jazz guy I'd use a stand, if only to let the audience know that what I'm playing isn't just a load of random old crap I'm making up as I go along.

And, of course, if make a goof you can just look at your crib sheet in disgust, tut, and raise your eyes in a kind of, "Well, that's what's written here" kind of way.

[discreet]

37 minutes ago, MB1 said:

Roger Whittaker's stool?

Again... wrong website. *Goes to Cleveland on a steamer... eats pancake in Boston*

Edited December 29, 2017 by discreet

[DJpullchord]

Perhaps there is a question of how a song is learnt. If you’ve read it to play it, then it’s more familiar to read from a page. If you’ve learnt it by ear then you hands are one step ahead of you.

if you’re unfamiliar with what you’re playing at a gig, then you’re either incompetent( if it’s your regular set) or a quality musician capable with dealing with the unknown. The latter should of course be allowed any tools to make the performance the best it can.

 

safe.

[drTStingray]

1 hour ago, MB1 said:

Roger Whittakers Stool ?....got any pics?

 

Unfortunately I don't have a pic of the dual stool performance of Rog and Val Doonican despite this being a frequent occurrence on weekend TV in the 70s. 

[chris_b]

I wish I'd been in the same band for nearly 30 years. I wouldn't be using any charts then either!

[MB1]

11 hours ago, drTStingray said:

Unfortunately I don't have a pic of the dual stool performance of Rog and Val Doonican despite this being a frequent occurrence on weekend TV in the 70s. 

MB1.

Rog and Val duet on "Hey you get offa my stool" circa 1970.

 

[discreet]

51 minutes ago, MB1 said:

Val is wearing what is known as a 'light entertainment' jacket.

[MB1]

1 hour ago, discreet said:

Val is wearing what is known as a 'light entertainment' jacket.

MB1.

Yep he can certainly "Walk Tall" in that!

its pre Cardie and Polo era (of which Val became a pioneer)

.....and still not a music stand in sight.