Gareth Hughes Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 For what it’s worth, I had a bass refinished from natural wood to Olympic White. Not knowing any better I bought a white undercoat paint. Top coat paint was definitely Olympic White - I looked quite the plonker standing with my Fender in the middle of Halfords to get the right colour. After spraying, the bass came close to pearl white. I asked the guy doing it what the story was, he said I would have needed grey or possibly an orange undercoat. Wish I’d had that conversation before I bought the paint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 ok thanks - that's two conflicting pieces of advice then right now I'm busily sanding. I've got the Olympic white, I'm awaiting dispatch of the primer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 I think I would be tempted to just spray the Olympic White with no primer, it will build up almost as fast as with a primer and with less chance of sanding through before the top coats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) Ok, I just don’t want to run out...,won’t the finish look a bit bumpy without primer ? Edited August 1, 2018 by Geek99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Geek99 said: Ok, I just don’t want to run out...,won’t the finish look a bit bumpy without primer ? Not if you wet sand after a couple of coats then just final colour coat or are you clear coating aswell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Geek99 said: Ok, I just don’t want to run out...,won’t the finish look a bit bumpy without primer ? Grain fill first and get it dead flat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 Probably a thin coat of clear, I’ve not decided really i have a bit of grain filler left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 You definitely want to grain fill first, lacquer will continue to shrink for many months and wood pores will show through eventually otherwise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 I've rough sanded it and flashed some white spirit over it to see the flaws more clearly. I have got rid of some imperfections in the original state, but I have realised just how open-pored the paulownia is. There is only so much good I can do with sanding. Lesson learned. Sadly the idiot ebay seller of the primer didn't answer the phone, and did not respond to ebay messages and has sent the primer anyway, so I have to use it. I did ask if grey would work better but he didn't bother reading. I'm going to fine sand, and then grain fill as best I can with what I have left and then put cellulose primer on and flat it to try and even things out texture wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 so I got impatient. Its pretty much sanded flat with all traces of transwhite gone. Its smoother and some of the deficiencies are fixed. I used the olympic white cellulose to repaint my scratched phone cover (nice finish, dried quickly) and a quick patch on the wood where the neck plate goes, to see how it covers grain, and how smooth it got. NOt seen it dried yet, will report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 final grain fill done, which filled in some scratches I had not previously noticed. Sanding done. Waiting for a nice windless day to paint primer on. I did a test stripe of a scrap of wood, neat cellulose, side by side with the primer plus cellulose. The latter looked better and coverge was noticeably better, although as @Gareth Hughes says, it is very white.I''m going to put two coats of primer on and see whats shines through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 so, I have put cellulose primer on and then some more and the open grained nature of pawlonia is still showing through, I know that this means I didnt grain fill it enough. I'm going to let it dry thoroughly and then use the remainder of the grain filler in a thick mix to fill in the worst bits (it'll show up better on white primer than on wood) and fill in a few dings I didnt notice before. Then if I flat down the primer plus grain fills, it should be at least a bit flatter. I'm thoroughly ticked off with pawlownia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) ok - an update. I ran out of white primer and ordered some grey @Gareth Hughes. However many trenches, bangs and scrapes I fix, there are always more, grain filler doesn't touch them. I will never buy paulownia again. The grey made a good job of covering and I have now decided to top coat and live with it (the front isnt too bad and I am confident that I can overfill with paint and flat down) . I had sprayed a test swipe of olympic white on white primer and it was a bit pearly as noted above. I've now done a quick mist coat all over the grey and am pleasantly surprised (a first for this endless viking saga of a build) that it looks a very mellow white. picture added @Gareth Hughes Should go nicely with the celluloid brown tort that I have waiting. @vinorange Edited September 13, 2018 by Geek99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Hughes Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Pictures!! Glad to hear it's working out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) so I got a nice white finish all over, aside from a few minor dinks that just won't fill . I bought some cellulose clear varnish, which has charmingly split the white paint in places. I think the phrase I have in mind rhymes with "clucking bell" I thnk my xmas list is going to feature a ready sprayed sunburst body in nitro, courtesy of Brandoni Edited September 24, 2018 by Geek99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) So the neck is on bridge on earthing strip in 62 style straplocks MOP block markers Tomorrow: earthing in cavities Pickups strings control plate although I have no knobs dry fitting of Tort celluloid plate and tug bar ive given up on the body, it’s as good as it was going to get. It looks okay from the front and will relic quickly as there is minimal varnish and the nitro paint marks and scrapes easily, more so given careless handling... and who on earth would be careless in handling it?😎 Edited October 10, 2018 by Geek99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) Getting there .... The plate still has film on it I need to connect pup to pot need tug bar fitted i still need to get concentric knobs from somewhere BEFORE any one points it out 1. I know the first position block is slightly wonky 2. I know stack knobs didn’t have blocks and so are not strictly accurate Edited October 12, 2018 by Geek99 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 @vinorange anything look familiar ? @Groove Harder I finally got there, it’s only been a year ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groove Harder Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Nice job dude! Looks great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songofthewind Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Very lovely. Jazz Bass, white with tort, and blocks. Can’t be beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 It will be beat .... thin soft paint for maximum relic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songofthewind Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Even better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 Stack knobs .... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Note that the paint on the silver-painted knobs is thin and has started to wear a bit already ...terrible ..😈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) This is a moment - I for the first time have achieved genuine mojo. I had a free lunchtime so had a quick noodle through my zoom and noticed what I thought were visible grain undulations in my otherwise poor nitro paint job In fact they were genuine lacquer crazing, lots of it.😎 Now I rub in some shoe polish ... Edited March 24, 2021 by Geek99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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