Cato Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, BigRedX said: Is it actually Radiohead, or Radiohead's publishers? There's an important difference. Sorry, looks like we posted at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brook_fan Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) I love Radiohead, don’t get me wrong, but, isn’t it a case of pot, kettle and black? I mean, Radiohead totally knicked Nirvana’s most famous riff for their song “Just”. Edit: having just listened to Lana Del Ray’s song you can see Radiohead’s point. They are strikingly similar. Edited January 8, 2018 by Brook_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I don't mind that from time to time bands write songs similar to something that has already been recorded. There are a limited amount of chords and not all progressions sound great. Sometimes there's something somebody heard a few years ago that was stuck in the subconscient and came out in a moment of composition completely unaware of the existance of the original song. Having said that Lana's song sounds like almost a copy of Creep in terms of feel and sound as the Hollies song on the other hand is a bit more appart from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Brook_fan said: I love Radiohead, don’t get me wrong, but, isn’t it a case of pot, kettle and black? I mean, Radiohead totally knicked Nirvana’s most famous riff for their song “Just”. I love the legal term - 'totally knicked (sic)'. Much easier to say down the pub than publisher's copyright infringement. Heeheehee. Don't mind me taking the wee wee. I was once arrested for half-inching a metre rule. The judge let me off on a technicality because he couldn't decide which was worse... half-inching property or twelve and a half millimetering it. Edited January 8, 2018 by SpondonBassed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I have a load of songs I wrote, that sound just like many modern classics. i recorded them ages ago, and put them in my safe along with all my Bitcoin details...gone and lost the key...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 People might be interested in a programme just broadcast on the BBC 'Copyright or Wrong' http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08md9xf Food for thought anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 51 minutes ago, Phil Starr said: People might be interested in a programme just broadcast on the BBC 'Copyright or Wrong' http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08md9xf Food for thought anyway I was listening to that on the way home 🎼🎵🎶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, MacDaddy said: I was listening to that on the way home 🎼🎵🎶 © MacDaddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I don't know how anyone can listen to Lana Del Ray, she sounds as though she's about to fall asleep at the microphone. Just awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 13 hours ago, stingrayPete1977 said: I just clicked the link, that Lana Del Rey song is just awful. Her name translates as 'the king's wool', just as a fun side note. show off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Chris2112 said: I don't know how anyone can listen to Lana Del Ray, she sounds as though she's about to fall asleep at the microphone. Just awful. She inspires me to lethargy. Someone get her a strong coffee please because her voice would sound so good if she didn't sound so slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyquipment Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Change the key lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jassthebass Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I listened to an interview with Thom Yorke a few years ago where he stated along the lines of the band not owning their own material, especially their earlier stuff !! - I suspect it has nothing to do with the band. By the way, I can’t think which Nirvana song is supposed to sound like ‘Just’ - Slaterz I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, jassthebass said: I listened to an interview with Thom Yorke a few years ago where he stated along the lines of the band not owning their own material, especially their earlier stuff !! - I suspect it has nothing to do with the band. Normally when artists say this it means that they don't own the recordings. Most of the time record companies will retain the mechanical copyright - certainly for any band that is successful and still selling albums. They will only release the rights to the recordings when it no longer profitable for them to continue to own them. Ownership of the song/music itself and publishing is completely different and this is what is in dispute. Unless the songwriters in Radiohead signed a very poor publishing deal initially they should still own at least 50% of the rights to the song between all the named songwriters. However anyone with a financial interest in the the actual song could be the one instigating this action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) - Edited February 25, 2022 by Jus Lukin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Lana Del Ray is just awful, I don't understand how that rubbish exists. Not a legal viewpoint. The melody of the song, the inflection in the vocals, the misery, it's a "tribute" to Creep undoubtedly. I would rather Radiohead issued a complete cease and desist against her career. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcgiver69 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 08/01/2018 at 12:39, stingrayPete1977 said: I just clicked the link, that Lana Del Rey song is just awful. Her name translates as 'the king's wool', just as a fun side note. Actually is meant to be a "money from the king", yours is a literal translation which really doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Mcgiver69 said: Actually is meant to be a "money from the king", yours is a literal translation which really doesn't make any sense. I speak spanish, mcnach who commented on my post "show off" is spanish, lana herself made the name up because it 'sounded exotic' so you'll need a reference of how you've come to your conclusion please? The literal translation makes perfect sense to anyone that speaks or at least reads spanish, lana del rey. Wool of the king, wool that belongs to the king. "The King's wool" Edited January 9, 2018 by stingrayPete1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcgiver69 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, stingrayPete1977 said: I speak spanish, mcnach who commented on my post "show off" is spanish, lana herself made the name up because it 'sounded exotic' so you'll need a reference of how you've come to your conclusion please? The literal translation makes perfect sense to anyone that speaks or at least reads spanish, lana del rey. Wool of the king, wool that belongs to the king. Dude I don't know you but I was actually born and bred in a spanish speaking country so don't take it from me. In latin america which is her closest spanish speaking area lana is slang for money. So for Mcnach being spanish lana would just mean wool. Edited January 9, 2018 by Mcgiver69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, stingrayPete1977 said: I speak spanish, mcnach who commented on my post "show off" is spanish, lana herself made the name up because it 'sounded exotic' so you'll need a reference of how you've come to your conclusion please? The literal translation makes perfect sense to anyone that speaks or at least reads spanish, lana del rey. Wool of the king, wool that belongs to the king. there may be something there, I think in Mexico (and possibly some countries in South America) lana can be slang for money. We don't use that meaning in Spain, but I've certainly heard people say (in a movie) "uf, mucha lana" when they thought something was too pricey. There are a lot of differences in the Spanish spoken in different countries... sometimes with hilarious or embarrasing results. While in Spain you would "coger el autobus" (take the bus), in Argentina that would imply you want to have sexual intercourse with the bus. In Spain coger and agarrar mean pretty much the same: take, grab... so an Argentinian would say "agarrar el autobus". It's a jungle out there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 But she just put the words together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, mcnach said: there may be something there, I think in Mexico (and possibly some countries in South America) lana can be slang for money. We don't use that meaning in Spain, but I've certainly heard people say (in a movie) "uf, mucha lana" when they thought something was too pricey. There are a lot of differences in the Spanish spoken in different countries... sometimes with hilarious or embarrasing results. While in Spain you would "coger el autobus" (take the bus), in Argentina that would imply you want to have sexual intercourse with the bus. In Spain coger and agarrar mean pretty much the same: take, grab... so an Argentinian would say "agarrar el autobus". It's a jungle out there... We speak 'proper' spanish Jose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcgiver69 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mcnach said: there may be something there, I think in Mexico (and possibly some countries in South America) lana can be slang for money. We don't use that meaning in Spain, but I've certainly heard people say (in a movie) "uf, mucha lana" when they thought something was too pricey. There are a lot of differences in the Spanish spoken in different countries... sometimes with hilarious or embarrasing results. While in Spain you would "coger el autobus" (take the bus), in Argentina that would imply you want to have sexual intercourse with the bus. In Spain coger and agarrar mean pretty much the same: take, grab... so an Argentinian would say "agarrar el autobus". It's a jungle out there... Tell me bloody about it, I got some funny stories of my travels to Venezuela, Mexico and Puerto Rico with some normally innocent words that mean something sexual in those countries Edited January 9, 2018 by Mcgiver69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) Maybe lana as slang for money is derived from something to do with wool in exchange for money from the palace or something? She just stuck lana and del rey together to make a name rather than it being a saying so it still means king's wool to me, king's money to mexicans. Edited January 9, 2018 by stingrayPete1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, stingrayPete1977 said: We speak 'proper' spanish Jose Well... interesting that you say that, because... in South America they have sometimes preserved a lot of words and phrases that in Spain we have either lost or "corrupted" into something else... so sometimes you could argue that there's a lot of "proper Spanish" on the other side of the Atlantic. As I said... it's a jungle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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