skidder652003 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 sustain into controlled feedback, essential... Quote
xgsjx Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 48 minutes ago, Al Krow said: I'm impressed that you guys are managing to sustain meaningful discussion on this thread; although it does seem to be a little long and drawn out; certainly compared to the usual punchy notes I've come to expect. They’ve held it steady in this thread for some time now. Quote
T-Bay Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Frank Blank said: She Sells Sanctuary - great song btw, well, not great, good. I realise it is the length of time a note sounds for, what I'm trying to ascertain is (which is not adequately, or possibly at all) addressed in my initial post is why sustain appears to be one of the characteristics sought after by bass players when selecting a bass? Do you mean sustain or MORE sustain though? There is a point beyond which extra sustain would be pointless for most (all?) but you need a degree of sustain of the notes in a lot of situations. (and sanctuary is a GREAT song btw ;-) not good, great) Quote
Lozz196 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Dad3353 said: You bash the strings so hard the bridge moves..? Remind me not to lend you my bass..! In all honesty I hope that I don`t, but the grooves are a good little precaution, just in case I get carried away. 1 hour ago, discreet said: Punk band, innit? Real deal! And that`s it, punk has got to be played hard. Quote
cheddatom Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 99% of the gigs 99% of basschatters are playing require a second or two of sustain maximum, so yeh, after that it becomes pointless for most ...but then anything but a 4 string fender bass through a bog standard amp is pointless for most. We still manage plenty of discussion though! Personally I like my music a bit weirder than the average pop/rock/RnB song so I've got a huge collection of pedals, several 6 string basses, and no amp. It'd be boring if we were all the same Quote
2elliot Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 I'd be more more worried about the person that has never heard of The Cult... 1 Quote
Dad3353 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 Be worried, then; be very worried. I've never heard of half the bands mentioned here..! Quote
FinnDave Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: Be worried, then; be very worried. I've never heard of half the bands mentioned here..! That's still more than I have heard of! 1 Quote
Frank Blank Posted January 9, 2018 Author Posted January 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, T-Bay said: (and sanctuary is a GREAT song btw ;-) not good, great) As I tend to bifurcate people into two groups over almost any topic or action, I.e. those who don’t look where they are going and those who get out of their way, people who enjoy football and those who don’t, glass half full/empty people etc. There are also two groups with no Venn crossover, those who like The Cult and those who like Killing Joke, I’m afraid I’m in the latter group,so I can, grudgingly, only go as far as ‘good’ when it comes to SSS. Quote
T-Bay Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, Frank Blank said: As I tend to bifurcate people into two groups over almost any topic or action, I.e. those who don’t look where they are going and those who get out of their way, people who enjoy football and those who don’t, glass half full/empty people etc. There are also two groups with no Venn crossover, those who like The Cult and those who like Killing Joke, I’m afraid I’m in the latter group,so I can, grudgingly, only go as far as ‘good’ when it comes to SSS. I like both (and you know you LOVE sanctuary :-) ) Quote
FinnDave Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, Frank Blank said: As I tend to bifurcate people into two groups over almost any topic or action, I.e. those who don’t look where they are going and those who get out of their way, people who enjoy football and those who don’t, glass half full/empty people etc. There are also two groups with no Venn crossover, those who like The Cult and those who like Killing Joke, I’m afraid I’m in the latter group,so I can, grudgingly, only go as far as ‘good’ when it comes to SSS. And then there's the other group. of people who have no idea what these things are and to doesn't actually bother them. I assume 'Venn crossover' is a band, or is it two bands? Quote
drTStingray Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 I've just been reading through the responses on here. Have I got this right:- 1) Some people have basses which need modification to get sustain. 2) Some people smack their basses so hard the strings come off the bridges 3) 99% of people bash away on rudimentary basses and amps where sustain is not required. All I can think is gor blimey. But seriously, have we finally found a differentiator here between the designs which were got right in the long and distant past (but need modification to make them sustain so weren't that good after all) and the more recent makes and more recent iterations of 'vintage' designs which amongst other things, correct this flaw. Good grief - you learn something every day 😂 1 Quote
Dad3353 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FinnDave said: ...I assume 'Venn crossover' is a band, or is it two bands? No, we use a Venn crossover depending on the frequency of postings on the subject of sustain. It filters the 'Hi..!' part to the Drunk thread and the 'Low' part to the Depression topic. Edited January 9, 2018 by Dad3353 Quote
Frank Blank Posted January 9, 2018 Author Posted January 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, FinnDave said: I assume 'Venn crossover' is a band, or is it two bands? Venn Crossover, a short-lived offshoot from Grand Funk Railroad, Mel Schacher playing for both, sometimes simultaneously. Quote
Al Krow Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, xgsjx said: They’ve held it steady in this thread for some time now. Do you think the discussion would be improved by compression or would that sustain it for no good reason? Quote
leftybassman392 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, Al Krow said: Do you think the discussion would be improved by compression or would that sustain it for no good reason? Care to expand on that? Quote
FinnDave Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 It would be easier to read if we could compress it down to less than one page. Quote
spectoremg Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 Nobody's pointed out the obvious yet. It's all in the fingers. Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, spectoremg said: Nobody's pointed out the obvious yet. It's all in the fingers. Can you play hemi demi semi quavers at 120bpm ? Quote
fleabag Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 If only i knew what hemi demi semi quavers were Quote
T-Bay Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, fleabag said: If only i knew what hemi demi semi quavers were Cheesy crisps I think Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 28 minutes ago, fleabag said: If only i knew what hemi demi semi quavers were https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixty-fourth_note To get a half convincing sustained note just from "the fingers" on a dead bass you'd need to be fast and consistent at these, I'd struggle beyond 8ths or 16ths at a push for a short duration. Quote
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