FinnDave Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 15:40, Bobthedog said: If it is for a Christmas Pudding. it should be the burnt remnants of the turkey. Otherwise known as Wishbone Ash. No don’t thank me, feel free to use that a a band name if it hasn not been done before. Going back to the OP, I suggest filling the bath to the brim and then putting the bass into the bath. The weight of the displaced water will equal the weight of the water previously in the bath. I am not sure what that means but it must help. Expand We don't have a bath, will this work in the shower? Quote
Bobthedog Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 15:42, FinnDave said: We don't have a bath, will this work in the shower? Expand Only if you have a watertight shower door. Apparently my shower door was not. Quote
FinnDave Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) On 27/01/2018 at 15:46, Bobthedog said: Only if you have a watertight shower door. Apparently my shower door was not. Expand No idea if the shower door is watertight. I'll pop in there in a moment with my best Precision and see if I can work out the weight once I've collected all the water off the bathroom floor. Edited January 27, 2018 by FinnDave 1 Quote
Painy Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 If the amount of water spilt onto the bathroom floor whilst bathing is an accurate depiction of weight then my kids must each be somewhere around the weight of an adult humpback whale. 1 Quote
Norris Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 The crucial part of any spoon is the angle between bowl and handle a.k.a. the breakfast angle. If too shallow it will suffer nut rattles, causing a lack of pudding cohesion Quote
3below Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 18:52, Norris said: The crucial part of any spoon is the angle between bowl and handle a.k.a. the breakfast angle. If too shallow it will suffer nut rattles, causing a lack of pudding cohesion Expand Conversely, too steep an angle and you get slippage which leads to poor performance. Quote
FinnDave Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 16:32, Painy said: If the amount of water spilt onto the bathroom floor whilst bathing is an accurate depiction of weight then my kids must each be somewhere around the weight of an adult humpback whale. Expand It must be a more accurate way of weighing a bass, though, before I took in the shower my Precision weighed under nine pounds according to the kitchen scales, but obviously the accuracy of the Archimedean shower scared them into revealing its true weight afterwards at just under 27 lbs. I'll play it tomorrow if water has stopped pouring out of the jack socket by then. Quote
lurksalot Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 08:39, FinnDave said: I prefer the tone of a traditional Christmas pudding, these modern light weight sponges will be the ruination of bass playing. Expand Well yes , but do you not find it relics rather quickly when you pour the brandy on and set fire to it ! Quote
Norris Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 I have another method. First of all take your car to your local weighbridge and get it weighed accurately. Then drive into your bass at a known speed, ensuring that all momentum is transferred to the instrument in question. Measure the speed at which your bass travels and by simply applying the law of conservation of momentum you can then work out the mass of your bass. If you lack the necessary equipment to measure the bass velocity accurately, then just measure the distance travelled by the bass, contact the highways department to find out the coefficient of friction of your local road surface and apply basic Newtonian physics. It really couldn't be easier Quote
FinnDave Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 19:30, lurksalot said: Well yes , but do you not find it relics rather quickly when you pour the brandy on and set fire to it ! Expand Yes, it's true to say that it does have some advantages Quote
discreet Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 18:52, Norris said: The crucial part of any spoon is the angle between bowl and handle a.k.a. the breakfast angle. If too shallow it will suffer nut rattles... Expand I've been having problems with my breakfast angle and nut rattles. The current mrs discreet says it's an age thing. Quote
FinnDave Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 20:14, discreet said: I've been having problems with my breakfast angle and nut rattles. The current mrs discreet says it's an age thing. Expand I feel sure a new spoon would help. Quote
3below Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) On 27/01/2018 at 20:14, discreet said: I've been having problems with my breakfast angle and nut rattles. The current mrs discreet says it's an age thing. Expand On 27/01/2018 at 20:15, FinnDave said: I feel sure a new spoon would help. Expand There is another (more drastic) solution, which involves changing another aspect of the situation. I performed this manoeuvre last year and can conform it solved all angle and nut rattle issues Edited January 27, 2018 by 3below multi-quotes in wrong order Quote
FinnDave Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) On 27/01/2018 at 20:21, 3below said: There is another (more drastic) solution, which involves changing another aspect of the situation. I performed this manoeuvre last year and can conform it solved all angle and nut rattle issues Expand That sounds as if it could potentially leave you open to losing at least half of your spoon collection Edited January 27, 2018 by FinnDave Quote
3below Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 20:24, FinnDave said: That sounds as if it could potentially leave you open to losing at least half of your spoon collection Expand It will not have been the cheapest option when all the puddings and spoons are shared out On the plus side all diners have sufficient puddings.and I have started using the spoons in their natural habitat again Quote
discreet Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 20:21, 3below said: There is another (more drastic) solution, which involves changing another aspect of the situation. I performed this manoeuvre last year and can conform it solved all angle and nut rattle issues Expand You bought erotic postcards? Quote
3below Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 20:57, discreet said: You bought erotic postcards? Expand You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment. It is not our policy to confirm or deny such aspects. Quote
pfretrock Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 26/01/2018 at 21:42, lurksalot said: After instigating a thread recently of a scientific nature , I learnt that the thing you speak of, is actually a hypothesis , not a theory Expand The hypothesis seems to agree with the theory. Hung the bass on a rope (for safety). Attached a guitar third string. Wound tuner until rope went slack. Closest I could get was B flat (233Hz), the string started to slip on the tuner if tightened further. String weight is 0.00005 pounds per foot (15 gauge), length 17.5 inches, using D'Addario formula: Tension = 0.00005 x (2 x 17.5 x 233) x (2 x 17.5 x 233)/386.4 = 8.6 pounds Not too far out, weight on scales (with assistance of Mrs P) is 8 lb 11 oz 3 Quote
3below Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 21:43, pfretrock said: The hypothesis seems to agree with the theory. Hung the bass on a rope (for safety). Attached a guitar third string. Wound tuner until rope went slack. Closest I could get was B flat (233Hz), the string started to slip on the tuner if tightened further. String weight is 0.00005 pounds per foot (15 gauge), length 17.5 inches, using D'Addario formula: Tension = 0.00005 x (2 x 17.5 x 233) x (2 x 17.5 x 233)/386.4 = 8.6 pounds Not too far out, weight on scales (with assistance of Mrs P) is 8 lb 11 oz Expand I am going to use this one as a practical for my Physics students, set as an open ended challenge - here is some kit, find the mass of the object. It is a nice application of moder kit (tuner) and classical theory. 1 Quote
Creeper Posted January 27, 2018 Author Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) On 27/01/2018 at 22:03, 3below said: I am going to use this one as a practical for my Physics students, set as an open ended challenge - here is some kit, find the mass of the object. It is a nice application of moder kit (tuner) and classical theory. Expand This does raise the question of when we list our basses for sale we should be quoting mass or weight. weight is a movable measurement dependant upon a number of factors, if you are playing your bass on the moon for example your bass will weigh considerably less than if you are gigging at WSL in Sheffield, whereas the mass will remain constant. i hear that Virgin are shortly opening up flights to the moon which may be good news for those of us who long for the deep rich tones of a heavy woods, but struggle with the weight of such a substantial axe..... Edited January 27, 2018 by Creeper Quote
pfretrock Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 22:18, Creeper said: i hear that Virgin are shortly opening up flights to the moon which may be good news for those of us who long for the deep rich tones of a heavy woods, but struggle with the weight of such a substantial axe..... Expand There is no atmosphere, you will not hear those no-longer-heavy bass cabs. Quote
Norris Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 21:43, pfretrock said: The hypothesis seems to agree with the theory. Hung the bass on a rope (for safety). Attached a guitar third string. Wound tuner until rope went slack. Closest I could get was B flat (233Hz), the string started to slip on the tuner if tightened further. String weight is 0.00005 pounds per foot (15 gauge), length 17.5 inches, using D'Addario formula: Tension = 0.00005 x (2 x 17.5 x 233) x (2 x 17.5 x 233)/386.4 = 8.6 pounds Not too far out, weight on scales (with assistance of Mrs P) is 8 lb 11 oz Expand So are you going to try my conservation of momentum method next? Quote
pfretrock Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 22:03, 3below said: I am going to use this one as a practical for my Physics students, set as an open ended challenge - here is some kit, find the mass of the object. It is a nice application of moder kit (tuner) and classical theory. Expand Make sure the the object is supported by a rope first. Tricky bit was getting the string to hold on the peg. Rope was tied to a Hercules hanger. Ball end of string held by a small bracket with hole drilled in it. (could also maker a pendulum and time the period - the possibilities are endless!) But I think I'll stick with bathroom scales in the future. Quote
Creeper Posted January 27, 2018 Author Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 22:28, pfretrock said: There is no atmosphere, you will not hear those no-longer-heavy bass cabs. Expand That must be why they invented headphone amps! I did wonder..... However, just think of the rig you could bring out your moon buggie, In just the one trip, stack up those old trace 6x10 cabs, stick a few 18s on there, it would almost be worth not hearing it... Quote
lurksalot Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 21:43, pfretrock said: The hypothesis seems to agree with the theory. Hung the bass on a rope (for safety). Attached a guitar third string. Wound tuner until rope went slack. Closest I could get was B flat (233Hz), the string started to slip on the tuner if tightened further. String weight is 0.00005 pounds per foot (15 gauge), length 17.5 inches, using D'Addario formula: Tension = 0.00005 x (2 x 17.5 x 233) x (2 x 17.5 x 233)/386.4 = 8.6 pounds Not too far out, weight on scales (with assistance of Mrs P) is 8 lb 11 oz Expand Head ......done in but then string theory was never my strong point ! 1 Quote
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