skidder652003 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 OK a quick silly rant, Im listening to this right now and its frankly brilliant (not put it on in 20 years) and then I read this review from some plonker from the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/x4xm/ He's talking nonsense (apart from the drug abuse!) Its a FAB album, rant over, thanks for reading, I feel much better now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I think it's the weakest of the first five, to be honest, but it's still a banger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJpullchord Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Great album. For me, the first is the weakest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I think its a fantastic album! I can still remeber when i first heard 'changes'. Absolutely phenomenal feeling. Wheels of confusion, tomorrows dream, snowblind and laguna sunrise also fantastic tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dankology Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I think Changes is a bit of a turd and Laguna Sunrise a bit of an under-developed doodle but the rest of it is my favourite Sabbath by a country mile. Picked it up for £1.99 on the shoddy NEMS vinyl issue when I was 15 and spent many happy hours figuring out Supernaut, Under the Sun et al. Never quite copped FX though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzodog Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Great album. My favourites are Supernaut and St Vitus Dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 A great record, but not as good as the 3 that preceeded it (IMO, YMMV etc etc); Under The Sun is my favourite from this album. It's a shame that the bass tone sucks compared with BS/Paranoid, but then I guess that's cocaine for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybone Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Still one of my favourite Sabbath albums, but I guess that review is coming from "fresh" ears, instead of having grown up with the album. Maybe not as strong as "Master of Reality" or "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath", but still a good album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 It is also one of my favourite album covers of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 15 hours ago, Doctor J said: I think it's the weakest of the first five, to be honest, but it's still a banger. My sentiments too, but it's got some of my fave Sabbath songs on it. Snowblind is er... blinding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: “I've been all over the world and I've never seen a statue of a critic.” - Leonard Bernstein Back in 1988 when Who Framed Roger Rabbit came out, all of the critics were going crazy for it saying what a fantastic film it was. I watched it and thought it was utter shite. Despite only being 12 at the time, I have never listened to a critic or "expert" since and whenever anything comes out purporting to be the best thing since sliced bread, I usually wait until all of the hubbub has calmed down before watching/listening to it and instead judge for myself how good I think it is. There are some cracking tunes on this album though Edited January 27, 2018 by Delberthot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausages Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I should probably hide when I say this, but my favourite is Sabotage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Sausages said: I should probably hide when I say this, but my favourite is Sabotage What's the issue with that? (Apart from Bill Ward's leggings of course, lol) For me Megalomania is probably the best song Sabbath ever did. Edited January 27, 2018 by Spaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 45 minutes ago, Sausages said: I should probably hide when I say this, but my favourite is Sabotage Mine too. In fact it's my favourite album ever! As for the link in the first post, I think it's a fair review. I don't agree with it all, but it's far from a mindless slagging. And Sid Smith is far from a plonker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Vol 4 is a great album, but you can almost hear the drugs on the album. Also, the guitar is out of tune on Snowblind. Wheels of Confusion and Supernaut are class though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Clearly Volume 4 has had some influence over the years, I love the into to this track "This is one called Losing All". No Phil, I think you'll find it's called Supernaught 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopsdabassist Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Sausages said: I should probably hide when I say this, but my favourite is Sabotage Whyso? Sabotage and Bloody Sabbath are my Faves, then Heaven and Hell and Vol 4 and Master of Reality together. I always thought Vol 4 was the heaviest sab album for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 It's a great album with a few really excellent tracks on it,my band play four of them in our set 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Love Vol 4, do I remember hearing that it was in effect a TI solo album as the rest of them were too out of it to be any use, or am I going happily down mad street? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksterphil Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2nd album I ever bought. 1st was 'Hits 68' I then acquired Sabbath Bloody Sabbath with all the Satanic imagary on the cover. My Dad (a strict Baptist), was not impressed at all. I always liked the acoustic intro to Spiral Architect and sometimes play it when I'm noodling and ask people to guess the source....no one ever gets it right (except Sabbath fans obvs). No so big into metal these days, but might well give 4 and SBS a re-listen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, ricksterphil said: Greatest album cover ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: Greatest album cover ever? Well, better than Born Again anyway! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 21 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: Greatest album cover ever? possibly the best sab album (to me at least) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Please someone tell me there's a Dio period album that's their best. Just for fun like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 19 minutes ago, spectoremg said: Please someone tell me there's a Dio period album that's their best. Just for fun like. Heaven and hell is fantastic, used to be my fave in the 80s, then I "got" Ozzy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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