T-Bay Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Looking at a lightweight rig to backup my TE kit for smaller/ up a million stairs gigs. Looking at the Markbass range, specifically the traveller 2x10 and 1x15. The 2x10 is available in 4 or 8ohm, the 15 only 8. The amps won’t take less than 4 but have higher power at 4 than 8. I just want to double check my understanding is correct, if I use two 8ohm cabs I will be getting around the 4ohm needed, if used a 4and 8 it would be under the 4ohm and therefore a bad idea. So the best combination is both 8ohm but for a single cab it would be the 2x10 4ohm. Sorry that’s a bit rambling but hoping someone can confirm that’s about right. Quote
obbm Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Using an 8-ohm cab plus a 4-ohm cab together will take you well below the magic 4-ohm total load. so 2 x 8-ohm cabs is the optimum. Using just a single 8-ohm cab will not make a significant difference compared to a 4-ohm version of the same. All you will notice is that the pointer on the volume control is a few degrees further round. 1 Quote
T-Bay Posted January 31, 2018 Author Posted January 31, 2018 Thanks, good to have an expert confirm what I thought! Quote
xgsjx Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Why go for 2 different cabs? Try both out & get 2 of the ones that you like the best. 1 Quote
T-Bay Posted January 31, 2018 Author Posted January 31, 2018 I like the mix of 10s and a 15, always seems a more rounded sound than 4x10. Quote
bubinga5 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 When using an 8ohm 112 cab, (for convenience on small rehearsal) with a 600w amp your only getting 300 watts right.? What are you listening for, so you don't blow the speaker.? Or is it the amp that can get damaged.? Quote
xgsjx Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, T-Bay said: I like the mix of 10s and a 15, always seems a more rounded sound than 4x10. Diameter has no bearing on the sound. You could try a MarkBass 4x10 & an EBS 4x10 next to each other & find one sounds completely different to the other. Quote
T-Bay Posted January 31, 2018 Author Posted January 31, 2018 Possibly but my experience is different, there has been a very different sound to the 15s I use compared to the 10s of the same make. Quote
xgsjx Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 That's due to the cab more than the driver. Try both the 2x10s & the 1x15s, get 2 of the same cab. Having 2 different cab means you're likely to have an unpredictable sound at each venue. I know the 80s are making a comeback, but not everything from the 80s needs to come back (e.g. mismatched cabs) Quote
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Isn't there a sticky that covers all of this? Quote
T-Bay Posted January 31, 2018 Author Posted January 31, 2018 19 minutes ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said: Isn't there a sticky that covers all of this? Most of it, I read that first but was after confirmation on one detail which obbm kindly gave in the first response. Quote
T-Bay Posted January 31, 2018 Author Posted January 31, 2018 54 minutes ago, xgsjx said: That's due to the cab more than the driver. Try both the 2x10s & the 1x15s, get 2 of the same cab. Having 2 different cab means you're likely to have an unpredictable sound at each venue. I know the 80s are making a comeback, but not everything from the 80s needs to come back (e.g. mismatched cabs) No need for them to be mismatched if the maker knows what they are doing. I have no reason to doubt the recommendation of Markbass who happen to suggest the exact setup I am after. My present TE setup certainly isn’t mismatched either. 1 Quote
Lozz196 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 I`ve only ever had great sounding results when pairing 210s & 115s from the same maker, but..... Trying to get the same sound from either cab if wanting an easy rehearsal, or playing a small gig has always proved virtually impossible, as each cab has had its own voice. Plus in reality I`m too lazy/old/weak to carry two heavy cabs around, so stick with one 410 that`s easy enough between two people. Quote
machinehead Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, T-Bay said: No need for them to be mismatched if the maker knows what they are doing. I have no reason to doubt the recommendation of Markbass who happen to suggest the exact setup I am after. My present TE setup certainly isn’t mismatched either. My advice is to look into this carefully as well as listening to the experts here before buying what a manufacturer recommends. The cynic in me tends to think that Markbass, and other makers, know perfectly well about the perils of mixing speaker sizes. (I've owned a pair of Markbass 2x10s and a Markbass 1x15 and the 2x10 is deeper and tighter sounding if that helps.) Frank. 1 Quote
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, machinehead said: The cynic in me tends to think that Markbass, and other makers, know perfectly well about the perils of mixing speaker sizes. They know perfectly well the perils of not offering their customers what they want, whether it's good engineering or not: lost sales. Quote
machinehead Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said: They know perfectly well the perils of not offering their customers what they want, whether it's good engineering or not: lost sales. Very well put Bill. Frank. Quote
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