TheGreek Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Not the real thing but if you like them and don't have the cash... https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instrument/6-string-fretless-bass-guitar-handmade-ritter-roya-tribute/1285046225 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyerseve Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) If you like Ritters or intonation I would steer well clear! I mean the bridge is angled the wrong bloody way ffs! How do get to the stage where you can build an otherwise reasonable looking instrument and bugger up the foundations so badly... Edited February 2, 2018 by dyerseve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 The bridge has been set up slightly better now it seems. Looks perfectly playable with the current set up, maybe the luither had a brain fact when installing the bridge hence selling it cheap-ish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyerseve Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 44 minutes ago, binky_bass said: The bridge has been set up slightly better now it seems. Looks perfectly playable with the current set up, maybe the luither had a brain fact when installing the bridge hence selling it cheap-ish? Why are three of the height adjustment saddles missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Because the briges are far too high. This "bass" was already for sale some time ago, but it's a total waste of money even for £55 GBP which should be the asking price. No one called a luthier could ever make such an instrument. Nothing is made the correct way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) After a discussion with the seller I would agree with Tony. The seller says The Bass Gallery set it up, which at least resulted in the bridge being levelled, but I think this is not one for the pros. If it was advertised for £200-300 I might take a punt but for me £550 is too much. Edited February 2, 2018 by binky_bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazerjt Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Ahh the wrath of Basschat.... I’ve owned this a couple of years now. Absolutely no problem with the intonation whatsoever despite the bridge slant. I agree it’s lost on me why it was placed that way, most likely a mistake/inexperience. This was his second attempt I believe but I just don’t have that answer. What I can say is Martin at The Gallery did an awesome job on it when I took it in. Just a correction from a previous comment, I took it to the Gallery to have the neck levelled. I specifically requested the D through C strings to be lowered alongside this and this was accomplished by removing the height adjusters and filing the saddles down further. This was not an oversight or mistake by the original builder or a fix by The Gallery to try and set up the bass properly. This was to suit my playing style and how I wanted it set up. To say it’s not even worth £55 I think is a slight overreaction. It’s an excellent instrument and I stick the price advertised. Of course, taking into consideration most would want to change the bridge, the price is negotiable, but I stand by the quality of the build and materials used (even the bridge which was the first thing I opted to change when I bought it, But was then advised that this was not necessary when looked over). And finally....THIS IS NOT A RITTER!! It is Ritter shaped, nothing else. I’ve been careful not to mislead anyone into thinking they’re getting the time, expertise, materials, precision and QC that goes into building a Ritter. This is just a tribute, everyone take it easy. If anyone’s willing to throw out some constructive suggestions re bridge ideas or anything else please feel free to! I’ve never been a huge fan of the single bridges... Have a a great weekend everyone! 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) There was a cheap Hipshot 6 string bridge for sale on here a week or so back I think. EDIT: Schaller one here: Edited February 9, 2018 by lemmywinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyerseve Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 11 hours ago, frazerjt said: Ahh the wrath of Basschat.... I’ve owned this a couple of years now. Absolutely no problem with the intonation whatsoever despite the bridge slant. I agree it’s lost on me why it was placed that way, most likely a mistake/inexperience. This was his second attempt I believe but I just don’t have that answer. What I can say is Martin at The Gallery did an awesome job on it when I took it in. Just a correction from a previous comment, I took it to the Gallery to have the neck levelled. I specifically requested the D through C strings to be lowered alongside this and this was accomplished by removing the height adjusters and filing the saddles down further. This was not an oversight or mistake by the original builder or a fix by The Gallery to try and set up the bass properly. This was to suit my playing style and how I wanted it set up. To say it’s not even worth £55 I think is a slight overreaction. It’s an excellent instrument and I stick the price advertised. Of course, taking into consideration most would want to change the bridge, the price is negotiable, but I stand by the quality of the build and materials used (even the bridge which was the first thing I opted to change when I bought it, But was then advised that this was not necessary when looked over). And finally....THIS IS NOT A RITTER!! It is Ritter shaped, nothing else. I’ve been careful not to mislead anyone into thinking they’re getting the time, expertise, materials, precision and QC that goes into building a Ritter. This is just a tribute, everyone take it easy. If anyone’s willing to throw out some constructive suggestions re bridge ideas or anything else please feel free to! I’ve never been a huge fan of the single bridges... Have a a great weekend everyone! 😅 Hi and thanks for your post. The easiest way to have solved the bridge solution, if the action was still too high with the saddles as low as possible, would be to have routed channels for them to sit in. I am not a Luthier but I worked this out and did exactly this when I restored my Vantage 900A and it worked exactly as planned. Obviously with six individual bridges this is a lot of work but if you are experienced and have the right tools it is an easy enough job. The other option would have been to use a router to remove a section of say 5mm around the entire area the bridge sits on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazerjt Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Great thanks. I orginally found a goId Badass bridge but steered clear because of th high action ( and would have been quite an eyesore). Great idea about routing, I thought about this too and may well end up doing this. Not myself though, I’m fine with setting up instruments but any work like that’s way out of my league! Thanks for the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Some bridges really don’t go very low, and I’ve removed parts of saddles before to get the super low action I like. It’s quick and easy and perfectly ok if the string has something stable to rest on. In fact, the bridge in my Marleaux had those same ‘blades’ and even at their lowest they were a good 3mm too high, so I took them out. I think the bridge was ETS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBString58 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 The height of the bridge should be taken in to account when choosing the neck angle, a decent plan to begin with and 'high bridge' problems can be avoided. This makes me question the whole construction process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 Too many strings for me but if I was interested I don't think rebating the bridge into the body would be beyond the abilities of a good luthier/carpenter. Total cost? £50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 12 hours ago, TBString58 said: The height of the bridge should be taken in to account when choosing the neck angle, a decent plan to begin with and 'high bridge' problems can be avoided. This makes me question the whole construction process. Here is a picture of the 6 strings lined fretless I made for myself some 15 years ago, everything was done by hand with the only help of a router and some basic electric tools : is there anything wrong about it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Hellzero said: Here is a picture of the 6 strings lined fretless I made for myself some 15 years ago, everything was done by hand with the only help of a router and some basic electric tools : is there anything wrong about it ? Too many strings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 Is it out of tune?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 It has an ironing board for a fretboard ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyerseve Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Hellzero said: Here is a picture of the 6 strings lined fretless I made for myself some 15 years ago, everything was done by hand with the only help of a router and some basic electric tools : is there anything wrong about it ? Mate that is beautiful. Two things though, I'm not a fan of the colour of the pups, IMO they take away from the woods used. The other thing is that I can't believe the intonation is correct with all the saddles lined up in a straight line like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 They are Q-tuner pickups I believe... That's how they come. I had a pair of these in a 6 string concept bass I had a while ago... quite excellent as memory recalls! But I agree that maybe wood covers would suit better, but then I am a man who likes a good woody pickup cover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, dyerseve said: Mate that is beautiful. Two things though, I'm not a fan of the colour of the pups, IMO they take away from the woods used. The other thing is that I can't believe the intonation is correct with all the saddles lined up in a straight line like that... Just like Russ said, this is the way Erno Zwaan was making the original Q-Tuners. For the intonation that's the magic of the exposed cores strings which makes the setting very similar from string to string. With these strings there is almost no correction to make because the gauge is the one of the exposed part of the string. Try some and you'll see that this strange saddle position is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 And thanks for the compliment. If you look closer, you will see that there is a slight intonation correction, the B string being slightly further away (longer) than the E string, and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Have that bass fretted and sent to my chambers... I must ask, what does Byl mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) I can fret it. Byl was my nickname when I was young. I made something like 10 instruments on order and wanted to start making that for a living, but after around 10 years of absolutely not earning money I stopped definitely. I was also making repairs for guitars, basses and amps (I was well known for my knowledge in tubes). I even made repairs for high end hi-fi shops but fortunately (according to their retail price) they don't get out of use that often except for CD players. I used to work for the local shops and even for some other luthiers for their electronics issues or their clients amps. When I stopped, everybody asked me why I did it. My answer was always the same : Being honest will not make you earn your life and some of you still owe me a lot of money ! End of the (sadly usual) story. Edited February 18, 2018 by Hellzero knowledge in tube amps is what I wanted to write 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The intonation correction is there, take a look here : But thanks to these exposed cores strings, the correction is very light. Look at the Anthony Jackson Fodera fitted with the same kind of strings and you'll notice the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazerjt Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Amazing looking bass, what sort of wood is that on top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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