discreet Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, stevie said: The great thing about Basschat is that you can always find an expert on something. Yes you can, can't you? 18 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: All BC experts are self appointed and are of questionable quality. I couldn't have put it better myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: All BC experts are self appointed and are of questionable quality. That's the law. Except when it's not. Well that's just your (expert) opinion on the matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPJ Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Makes previously-owned ones look even better value 🙄😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 23 minutes ago, CJPJ said: Makes previously-owned ones look even better value 🙄😀 And yet, strangely more desirable at the same time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 07/02/2018 at 08:44, Cuzzie said: "......... our flagship UK manufacturer." ?? Hardly. They make decent cabs, but I've had quality-control issues with all of mine. It's a very small company working out of quite a small wood workshop in a shared enterprise business facility near to Brighton Railway station. A niche, boutique manufacturer. Their published financial numbers are tidy but tiny. Ashdown ARE our flagship manufacturer. They dwarf Barefaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Shh. Don't upset the apple cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I actually quite like the look of mine, with the black steel grille. A bit quirky. But then again, I play a MM Bongo Stealth so what the f**k do I know!! As you were! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 @Jenny_Innie OK, without getting into which is better, not all Ashdown products are made in the UK, do we still call it as UK flagship manufacturer? Where do Hiwatt, Laney, Marshall sit then? Aside from being the naval vessel carrying the admiral in a fleet flagship is normally reserved for the best product (or in this insert company) owned by an institution. Unless all the companies are owned by the UK I suppose then we cannot call any of them flagship, not even Ashdown. Sound fair? Would it have been better if I had just said a bloody good cab maker as a definition instead? isnt Bass stuff niche and boutique anyway, but some stuff is maybe über niche? Sure, we can carry on now with something that wasn’t put out there as a comparator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 7 hours ago, EBS_freak said: I like slut red. 7 hours ago, Al Krow said: This is the one for you then: Slut red in fishnets 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 @Jenny_Innie "Ashdown ARE our flagship manufacturer. They dwarf Barefaced... It's a very small company working out of quite a small wood workshop in a shared enterprise business facility near to Brighton Railway station. A niche, boutique manufacturer. Their published financial numbers are tidy but tiny." You make a good point about the size of Barefaced. Interested that you think Ashdown rather than (say) Marshall are our flagship UK manufacturer (in terms of turnover and brand reputation). You may be right, but that does surprise me to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I think it`s bass-wise that Ashdown are/should be regarded as the UK flagship manufacturer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I use Ashdown amps (two Rootmaster 800s) and Barefaced cabs (Super Twin & Super Compact). They certainly work very well together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bay Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Surely flagship,is quality not quantity. You wouldn’t say Toyota or Nissan were flagship manufacturers, whereas Aston Martin or RR would spring to mind for that crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, T-Bay said: Surely flagship,is quality not quantity. You wouldn’t say Toyota or Nissan were flagship manufacturers, whereas Aston Martin or RR would spring to mind for that crown. You'll probably find the reliability of the two Japanese brands you've quoted regularly beats that of the US/Kuwaiti/Italian and German owned (respectively) car companies you've mentioned. But I think you meant Morgan right, the last British owned, British made car? More of a coastguard patrol than a flagship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 A flagship company is one of the best in its industry or country. In our industry, we all know this is Barefaced, right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I expect some Likes from the usual suspects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bay Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Al Krow said: You'll probably find the reliability of the two Japanese brands you've quoted regularly beats that of the US/Kuwaiti/Italian and German owned (respectively) car companies you've mentioned. But I think you meant Morgan right, the last British owned, British made car? More of a coastguard patrol than a flagship. I dont think the ownership is relevant personally, it’s where they are made that counts. Reliability neither, it’s about the pinnacle of engineering. A Micra will do more miles than an F1 McLaren before it breaks but you wouldn’t count the Micra as a flagship UK made car over something more exotic Morgan, hmmmm, old cars for old people imho, more of a shroud than a flag. I have several classic bikes and cars and LOVE old technology, but I like it because it was evocative of an era and the best AT THE TIME. I wouldn’t want an Indian Enfield for the same reason I wouldn’t want a Morgan. Fireblade or AJS7R, but not a Harley for the same reason. Edited February 8, 2018 by T-Bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, stevie said: I expect some Likes from the usual suspects. Lol - 'likes fishing': a whole new pastime on BC! Well I have to agree with you that BF are the best at being lightweight. And probably also best at being transparent (aka neutral, tonally uncoloured, bland (?)...) We're also all now agreed, following earlier revelations and insights today, that they're now clearly market leader at mimicking the following colour scheme: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, T-Bay said: I don't think the ownership is relevant personally, it’s where they are made that counts. I don't completely agree with that: on that basis Fender Mexican Bass would be a flagship Mexican brand and Markbass Indonesian. Your point is a relevant one, for sure. But I think a more accurate view would be that a company's 'situs' is where the HQ is based and where the key design and development is undertaken. So Warwick is still German despite shipping off production to China, and Markbass still Italian etc. (And yes Aston Martin still British, but Rolls Royce cars, hmmm...the Germans are pretty good at luxury cars right and that one's owned by BMW). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkin Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Zźzzzzzzzzzzzz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheth Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 13 hours ago, la bam said: Having bought one and used one and carried one upstairs to practice rooms and gigs i can honestly say they are worth much more than they used to cost anyway and a price hike wouldnt put me off buying another. They certainly do punch above their weight. Great cabs and I'm happy to be a user for 3+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) - Edited February 25, 2022 by Jus Lukin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 9 hours ago, barkin said: Zźzzzzzzzzzzzz You do realise that if we are keeping you awake, there's other places you can go to amuse yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 8 hours ago, Jus Lukin said: Yeah, but still no horn... They aren't the brash cabs type. They prefer to not parade with their tweeters out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) I'm still using Super Twin #001, after many gigs it still looks exactly as it did when I collected it from BF in Brighton. It even has all three original handles in perfect working order. I'd rather use a black cab than red or yellow, the backline is there to be seen, not heard. Just like Victorian children! Just realised that my fingers typed the complete opposite of what my brain was thinking! It should have read: 'heard and not seen, unlike Victorian children!' Edited February 9, 2018 by FinnDave original was complete nonsense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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