andy67 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Recently bought another US Precision - a keeper this time - but when researching, I noticed that sellers on forums and eBay/gumtree are looking to get more for Mexican RW and 50's classics than the US Ps are selling for. What am I missing? I paid £750 for my 2013 US P however, some are looking for £800+ for the above two Mexican derivatives. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) Maybe they are better instruments? Not sure about the 50s Classics, but the Roadworns retail at well over a grand now... Edited February 26, 2018 by Conan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) mexican stuff is pretty good these days - I'm honestly not sure the US models are worth the huge premium for a handful of extra toys @andy67 Edited February 26, 2018 by Geek99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I guess they are panic buying before the wall goes up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooky_lowdown Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I’ve noticed bass prices across the board have increased substantially. I see used basses selling on eBay for more than what they cost to buy new. Crazy! Seems people think everything on sites like eBay etc are cheaper than buying new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueno Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 My view... hang on to the US Fenders you already have and buy new Squiers. ... other basses are available if you're not an F head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Classic 50s and Roadworns aren't cheap when new. I sold a roadworn Precision recently, and have a Classic 50s P on sale here at the moment. Having said that, I was in need of a new Jazz bass today, and bought a Mexican standard, 630 quid and a lot of bass for the money. I have several US Standard Precisions, (and have had Jazzes all well) and the current MiM range are good basses for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I can understand why the Road Worns are priced near to the US, very good basses indeed. The Classics are good, not as good as the RWs imo but still a darn fine bass and better than the Mex Standard, although not by that much - again imo. I think the quality of Mex Standard Fenders has upped significantly, 2012 models onwards, and whilst the US Standard is king for me, the Mex are gaining ground. I`ve two Mex Standard Precisions at present - one going to be sold soon - and for the £400 or so you get them for 2nd hand there is a great deal of bass there. Similar to Dave I`m looking for a Jazz at present, and am going Mex, will be plenty for my needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Lozz, we need to get our Jazz bass lust cycles synchronised better! It will save both a pile of money if we can arrange it so one of us is selling and the other buying at any one time! The 2017 MiM standard Jazz I bought today is as good as the US ones were a few years ago, and at under half the price the US are in the shops now, it wasn't a hard decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Yup, I had that going with Clarky for about five years. There were basses we sold to each other two, and even three, times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 6 hours ago, andy67 said: What am I missing? The actual price the transaction, if any, occurs at. Just because someone lists a bass at £800, it doesn't mean its worth £800 or that anyone would buy it at that price. Having said that, there do seem to be people out there who will pay over-the-odds for something, I have no idea why! I guess with this in mind, its worth taking a punt by overpricing it. Or setting the price leaving plenty of wiggle room for negotiation, ie the buyer thinks they knocked off 30% and got a good deal when in fact they paid the going rate etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 That`s a good point, no matter what the price is many seem to try and get a few quid off, so maybe some are inflating the initial price in order to get what they actually want, anticipating said haggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Cheers for the replies folks 👍 I’ve owned a Mex standard, classic and RW, all excellent in their own right especially the RW 😎 my gripe with the Mex Ps is the thickness of the headstock against the US P. If that was rectified, there would be little to no difference. I also know I’m being petty, picky and snobby! Lol 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 15:30, andy67 said: Recently bought another US Precision - a keeper this time - but when researching, I noticed that sellers on forums and eBay/gumtree are looking to get more for Mexican RW and 50's classics than the US Ps are selling for. What am I missing? I paid £750 for my 2013 US P however, some are looking for £800+ for the above two Mexican derivatives. Andy The Classic 50s is now around £850, so asking for that much used does seem excessive... but there's a version in nitro that costs £1,050 or thereabouts... so I can see some "as new" instruments going for £700-800 or so. They have a good reputation, and with good reason (my Classic 50s is going nowhere). The RW version is about £1200, so £800 does not seem crazy either... and they ARE really nice instruments. Prices have gone up a lot over the past 2 years or so... it's crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 It is crazy when you consider the US P price is lower. I loved my classic 50s, it got sold to pay for a car repair. The RW was stunning! But I’m really picky about the thickness of the headstock and the MIMs are to thin for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, andy67 said: It is crazy when you consider the US P price is lower. I loved my classic 50s, it got sold to pay for a car repair. The RW was stunning! But I’m really picky about the thickness of the headstock and the MIMs are to thin for my liking. I've got both MiM and US Fenders and have never even noticed a difference in the headstock. To save me the effort of going upstairs and comparing them, what exactly is the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 26/02/2018 at 16:06, Geek99 said: mexican stuff is pretty good these days - I'm honestly not sure the US models are worth the huge premium for a handful of extra toys @andy67 I agree, I needed another Jazz bass and bought a Mexican Standard new a couple of days ago. The cheapest US Jazz in the shop was about 2 1/2 times the price and I didn't feel the difference was worth paying that much for. I suspect that what the OP is seeing is that MiM basses suffer less depression than the US ones at the moment, plus the fact the Roadworns and Classic series are very much in demand. And if anyone would like one, I happen to have one advertised in the for sale section! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 4 hours ago, FinnDave said: I've got both MiM and US Fenders and have never even noticed a difference in the headstock. To save me the effort of going upstairs and comparing them, what exactly is the difference? There is a around 2-3mm in it, enough to notice. The American standard P is around the £1400 mark but appears to depreciate more than the Mex derivatives. 🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 26/02/2018 at 16:06, Geek99 said: mexican stuff is pretty good these days - I'm honestly not sure the US models are worth the huge premium for a handful of extra toys @andy67 I'll have to get a ruler out, I've a selection of Fenders upstairs and haven't even noticed! I didn't think you can still get a US Standard, unless some places still have old stock. and the others are even more expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I meant "whatever the standard US offering is these days" 'professional' or somesuch ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, andy67 said: There is a around 2-3mm in it, enough to notice. Measured a few, the US headstock is 5/8" thick, the Mexican 9/16", so the MiM are 1/16" thinner (about 1.5mm). I've got several sitting side by side and have never noticed before. I'd have thought a slightly thinner, and therefore lighter. headstock would be a good thing, it is still more than strong enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, FinnDave said: Measured a few, the US headstock is 5/8" thick, the Mexican 9/16", so the MiM are 1/16" thinner (about 1.5mm). I've got several sitting side by side and have never noticed before. I'd have thought a slightly thinner, and therefore lighter. headstock would be a good thing, it is still more than strong enough. The Mex headstocks are perfectly formed, it’s just something I prefer. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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