EssentialTension Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 What do you think of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I think it sounds like it's all Jamerson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 D'you know, I'm not even going to listen to it. I'm past caring. Next up: Did Paul McCartney die in 1966 and get replaced by a doppelganger? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Happy Jack said: D'you know, I'm not even going to listen to it. I'm past caring. Next up: Did Paul McCartney die in 1966 and get replaced by a doppelganger? Jack, you just had to bring up the Beatles again, oh dear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lozz196 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I thought it was quite interesting, but the difference in "sharper" tones could just be those notes were played on the D&G strings. I don`t know enough about their individual styles to seperate them but certainly the lower stuff sounds very Jameson, not sure that I could say that the higher stuff wasn`t him/was Kaye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbassman Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Lozz 196 - I think (someone may correct me) that Kaye was always a pick player, Jamerson never. I think the analysis is a bit OTT, but I agree with the overall idea that they both contributed to the final master. I would say the part from 3.15 onwards which he describes as being played by Kaye is definitely played with a pick and has a more regimented feel, and I certainly agree that Jamerson features again later on. And for those that think this is all a bit boring, well, this is a bass forum, so people who are interested in this sort of fine detail might just like to talk about it...........................endlessly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Sorry, but any bass player who didn't find that fascinating is tired of life. It doesn't conclusively prove anything, but the guy who produced the video certainly makes a good point. And Jamerson's bass line is just extraordinary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Jamerson's supernatural playing on "What's Goin' On?" and "For Once In My Life" alone are enough to make him a total genius, and that's all I need to know. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 This old debate again. We'll never know for sure and to be honest, I'd listen no matter which of the two accomplished players was responsible. Apologies to the OP but I am avoiding looking at that clip too. Nothing much to be gained from the analysis. Much more to be gained from playing the lines. Maybe this topic needs a subtle detour while BC elves delve into and compile earlier BC posts on the Jamerson/Kaye inquisition: Who played bass on the UK single release of Remember you're a Womble? Was it Tomsk Womble or Madame Cholet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 It was Orinoco during a rare lucid phase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, Geek99 said: It was Orinoco during a rare lucid phase Not Les Hurdle then...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 On 05/03/2018 at 21:37, Happy Jack said: Next up: Did Paul McCartney die in 1966 and get replaced by Carol Kaye? Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 46 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: Who played bass on the UK single release of Remember you're a Womble? Was it Tomsk Womble or Madame Cholet? It was that doyenne of the UK session scene, the incomparable Tony Goggle. He's been the subject of considerable discussion on BC in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Well I found it interesting. I'm not sure to be honest. There certainly is a tonal difference between certain past of the bass. The Jamerson parts are his style for sure but they sound too rigid. His bass playing is a lot more floaty and bouncy. I don't know what style Kaye played so maybe she can play Jamerson style. So no idea to be honest but I found it interesting still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I think it’s a mashup of both much as jamerson is a hero of mine, parts don’t sound like him even to my non expert ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 She also managed to fit in the assassination of JFK during a lunch break between sessions. Magic plectrum shot from the grassy knowle. Not sure if she was using flats or roundwounds though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Isolated bass, which may be Carol Kaye? Sounds a lot more 'picky' to me, but what do I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Carol Kaye is certainly credited on the Pet Sounds sleeve notes. And Jamerson's tone would be "darker" I suppose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Conan said: Carol Kaye is certainly credited on the Pet Sounds sleeve notes. And Jamerson's tone would be "darker" I suppose... I can't remember if Brian Wilson had got heavily into having two bass parts by this point, or if it was later (circa Smile) but there may also be an upright bass and/or Fender VI competing with Kaye's picked Precision for attention! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 If you ain't interested do not listen to this Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell version of ANMHE. Sounds like Jamerson all the way through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Are there any examples for Jamerson playing in a Non Jamerson way ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, lojo said: Are there any examples for Jamerson playing in a Non Jamerson way ? Only when he was pretending to be Carol Kaye on all those Beach Boys albums. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, EliasMooseblaster said: I can't remember if Brian Wilson had got heavily into having two bass parts by this point, or if it was later (circa Smile) but there may also be an upright bass and/or Fender VI competing with Kaye's picked Precision for attention! She has mentioned overdubbing her bass parts with a 6 string Danelectro [bass] probably that you can hear rather than a Fender VI Edited March 7, 2018 by pfretrock added [bass] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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